I agree it there are differences between Java2DRenderer and PsRenderer that
could account for this. Differences in anti-aliasing may also be at work
here.

I'm afraid I have exclusively used the PDFRenderer to date, so I can't offer
more help on this difference. Perhaps another party may have something more
to offer.

G.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Marquart, Joshua D <
joshua.marqu...@firstdata.com> wrote:

> I was just doing research on this topic, came back here to supplement my
> message with info, and saw you already beat me to it.
>
>
>
> Helpful method: getFontInfo().dumpAllTripletsToSystemOut()
>
>
>
> So… yes, I do not have fonts installed for font weights of 300, 500, etc.
> and that would account for resolving to 400/700.
>
>
>
> The problem I’m seeing is when generating a PostScript and a Tiff from the
> same xsl-fo file.
>
> The text generated in the Tiff (for the 400 weight) appears much lighter
> than identical text in the PostScript and is likely due to using the
> Java2DRenderer vs. the PsRenderer.
>
>
>
> Oddly, when I set the font to Arial in the xsl-fo:
>
> - the font in the resulting PostScript appears Times Roman
>
> - the font in the resulting Tiff is identical to the font used in the Tiff
> when Helvetica was specified.
>
>
>
> Other than hunting down, installing and registering a weight 500 or so font
> for Helvetica or Arial (where might I find one?  No idea.), are there other
> options that might I employ to lessen the lightness of the 400-weight ?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> -Josh
>
>
>
> *From:* Glenn Adams [mailto:gl...@skynav.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:02 PM
> *To:* Marquart, Joshua D
> *Cc:* fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Font Weight
>
>
>
> Josh,
>
>
>
> What you have not said yet is whether you actually have (on your system) a
> font with the desired weight or not. Specifically, do you actually have
> installed multiple font instances with the distinct weights you wish to
> reference? If you do not, then it doesn't do much good to discuss referring
> to them.
>
>
>
> On the other hand, if you do have distinct faces with weights 300, 500,
> 600, 800, 900, etc., installed, then it is merely a matter of ensuring that
> the reference in your FO file correctly maps to the associated font
> instance. That can be handled in different ways.
>
>
>
> So please answer whether you do have the fonts installed in the first place
> with these weights.
>
>
>
> G.
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Marquart, Joshua D <
> joshua.marqu...@firstdata.com> wrote:
>
> “FOP does not synthesize fonts with different weights. You need to supply
> the fonts with the weights you specify in FO content.”
>
>
>
> I understand Fop doesn’t synthesize the weights.  I understand that it has
> two specific built-in weights (700 and 400) that are being used to replace
> other weights per the following:
>
>
>
> When I set-up using a Java2DRenderer and specify the following FO content
> snippets:
>
>
>
> <fo:table-cell font-size="10pt" font-family="Helvetica"><fo:block
> line-height="13pt">
>
> <fo:block white-space-collapse="true">
>
> <fo:inline font-weight="900">900 Weight </fo:inline>
>
> …
>
> <fo:inline font-weight="800">800 Weight </fo:inline>
>
> …
>
> <fo:inline font-weight="700">700 Weight </fo:inline>
>
> …
>
> <fo:inline font-weight="600">600 Weight </fo:inline>
>
> …
>
> <fo:inline font-weight="500">500 Weight </fo:inline>
>
> …
>
> <fo:inline font-weight="400">400 Weight </fo:inline>
>
> …
>
> <fo:inline font-weight="300">300 Weight </fo:inline>
>
> </fo:block></fo:block></fo:table-cell>
>
> …
>
>
>
> the logger gives me the following information:
>
>
>
> WARNING: Font "Helvetica,normal,900" not found. Substituting with
> "Helvetica,normal,700".
>
> WARNING: Font "Helvetica,normal,800" not found. Substituting with
> "Helvetica,normal,700".
>
> WARNING: Font "Helvetica,normal,600" not found. Substituting with
> "Helvetica,normal,700".
>
> WARNING: Font "Helvetica,normal,500" not found. Substituting with
> "Helvetica,normal,400".
>
> WARNING: Font "Helvetica,normal,300" not found. Substituting with
> "Helvetica,normal,400".
>
>
>
> So I would need to supply very specific replacement fonts for
> Helvetica,normal,900 ( and 800-300, not counting 400)?
>
> (Same as above when replacing Helvetica with Arial).
>
>
>
> I DO understand the following:
>
>
>
> 1- that per the current specs, item 7.9.9 for font-weight has a “TODO
> <relative> font weights” message.
>
> 2 - that per the current build, the font classes generated from
> Helvetica.xml and HelveticaBold.xml are used for 400 and 700 respectively
>
> 3 - that per the fuzzy replacement, 700 is used for 900-600 and 400 is used
> for 500-100(probably).
>
>
>
> So my questions still stand
>
> 1 - is there a simpler way to use / access / apply a darker 500 or 600
> weight Helvetica and if so, what’s the best process to handle it given the
> codebase?
>
> 2 - should I instead render a “Helvetica500.xml” and generate the
> appropriate font class; obviously since that’s not yet been done with the
> existing fop codebase, it is probably a lot more work than needed.
>
> 3 - Any other option I should pursue?
>
>
>
> If there is a process started to handle item 7.9.9, I would be happy to
> pitch in and help, I am just not certain where to start.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Josh
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Glenn Adams [mailto:gl...@skynav.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:40 PM
> *To:* fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> *Cc:* Marquart, Joshua D
> *Subject:* Re: Font Weight
>
>
>
> FOP does not synthesize fonts with different weights. You need to supply
> the fonts with the weights you specify in FO content.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Glenn
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Marquart, Joshua D <
> joshua.marqu...@firstdata.com> wrote:
>
> I have a question about Font Weight.
>
>
>
> We’re using Helvetica and using FOP to take the FO file and generate it as
> both (1) a PostScript file and (2) a TIFF file.
>
>
>
> Additionally, we are able to use third-party software to take the
> PostScript file and convert it directly to a second TIFF file (for
> comparison reasons).
>
>
>
> Of course, the fonts on the TIFF from FOP are a little pixilated and the
> “normal” font could stand to be rendered a bit darker.
>
>
>
> I am using Helvetica and tried to set the font-weight to 500 or 600, but it
> gets replaced with weight 400, which is apparently the “normal” Helvetica
> font registered in the system.
>
> Font-weight Bold and values of 800 and 900 use the “bold” Helvetica which
> is weight 700.
>
>
>
> Is there an easy way to use / access a darker 500 or 600 weight Helvetica,
> or possibly render the or am I really sunk here?
>
>
>
> I’ve already extended the Java2DRenderer,  for my own purposes.
>
>
>
> The following Graphics2D rendering hints don’t seem to do much when
> included:
>
>
>
> graphics.setRenderingHint(RenderingHints.KEY_FRACTIONALMETRICS,
> RenderingHints.VALUE_FRACTIONALMETRICS_ON);
>
> graphics.setRenderingHint(RenderingHints.KEY_ANTIALIASING,
> RenderingHints.VALUE_ANTIALIAS_ON);
>
> graphics.setRenderingHint(RenderingHints.KEY_TEXT_ANTIALIASING,
> RenderingHints.VALUE_TEXT_ANTIALIAS_ON);
>
> graphics.setRenderingHint(RenderingHints.KEY_RENDERING,
> RenderingHints.VALUE_RENDER_QUALITY);
>
> graphics.setRenderingHint(RenderingHints.KEY_STROKE_CONTROL,
> RenderingHints.VALUE_STROKE_PURE);
>
>
>
> Suggestions would be very helpful.
>
>
>
> Much thanks,
>
>
>
> Josh* *
>
>
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