On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Eric D Helms <ericdhe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This thread has seen a revival with many points being made on both sides.
> However, things have gone cold for nearly a week now and there are
> processes and decisions that hinge on the outcome with respect to users and
> developers alike. Are we to assume that what has been done is done and this
> discussion is moot? Some finality in this matter would be greatly
> appreciated to either continue forward with EL6 builds and preparing all of
> our ecosystem users for the 1.14 release to migrate or beginning now to
> tell users they are SOL and to start testing transition and migration while
> we work out and test the best way for them to do so.
>

I strongly prefer deprecating EL6 with Foreman 1.14, and would ask to
revert the el6 changes in nighties.

Ohad

>
>
> Eric
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Justin Sherrill <jsher...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 07/29/2016 05:29 AM, Michael Moll wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 08:35:36AM +0100, Dmitri Dolguikh wrote:
>> >> I have at least one feature planned for smart-proxy that requires
>> >> dependencies not available on 1.8.7 (at all). At this point converting
>> >> the smart-proxy to use SCL isn’t worth it, and it would be great not
>> >> to have an additional 3-months wait.
>> >
>> > That would be exactly my point also, as I said in my mail for the
>> > original discussion back then: If the support for EL6 is prolonged, the
>> > proxy (and maybe even the installer) should really get into SCL, which
>> > is definitely too much work for just 3 or 6 months. If EL6 support is
>> > really needed, somebody[tm] needs to do that work, but then we could
>> > also extend the lifespan not only some months, but probably some years.
>> >
>> > As I don't use RH based distro at the moment, I can't really say how
>> > widespread the use of EL6 for Foreman really is...
>>
>> It seems surprisingly prevalent in katello users (maybe 30% from my
>> instances helping users).
>>
>> Since there wasn't a clear statement of when the deprecation was going
>> to occur (the original email thread was left without a conclusion), and
>> the release notes for 1.11 did not say which future release would remove
>> el6 support (until it was recently updated) I would vote to keep it for
>> 1.13 and make it very clear to both users and devs.   It would allow us
>> (and users on el6) to more thoroughly test our backup and restore
>> procedures across all plugins.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>>
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