Hello, the groups of order 5^3 are the following
(1) cyclic group C_{125} (2) abelian group C_{25} x C_5 (3) extraspecial 5-group of order 125 and exponent 5: C_5 \ltimes (C_5 x C_5) (4) extraspecial 5-group of order 125 and exponent 25: C_5 \ltimes C_{25} (5) elementary abelian group C_5 x C_5 x C_5. (Note that A \ltimes B is a split extensions with A acting on the normal subgroup B.) In general, the groups of order p^3 were classified by Otto Hoelder, "Die Gruppen der Ordnungen p^3 , pq^2, pqr, p^4.", Math. Ann., 43: 301 - 412, 1893. As 1625 = 13*5^3, a group G of order 1625 has a normal Sylow subgroup P of order 125. Now Schur-Zassenhaus show that P has a complement in G, that is, G is isomorphic to the split extension C_{13} \ltimes P. Due to order reasons, the cyclic group has to act trivially, that is, G is isomorphic to the direct product C_{13} x P. Hence, you obtain all groups of order 1625 by adding a direct factor C_{13} to every group (1)--(5) of order 125: gap>NumberSmallGroups(1625); 5 gap>List(AllSmallGroups(125),x->IdSmallGroup(DirectProduct(x,CyclicGroup(13)))); [ [ 1625, 1 ], [ 1625, 2 ], [ 1625, 3 ], [ 1625, 4 ], [ 1625, 5 ] ] Hope this helps, Heiko On Thursday 11 December 2008 23:19, Paweł Laskoś-Grabowski wrote: > Hello, > > Much of this (highly useful otherwise, thanks a lot) information is > actually much more general than I need at the moment. I need to know the > structure of all (up to isomorphism, of course) groups of orders 125 and > 1625. I was glad to discover that there are only five of each, but now > it seems that the ones obtained by semidirect products may actually > represent many non-isomorphic groups. Is there a way to obtain such > level of details using GAP, or should I refer to textbooks and/or prove > few facts myself to get the information I need? > > Regards, > Pawel Laskos-Grabowski > > Joe Bohanon schrieb: > > I would point out that StructureDescription might not always return a > > group the way you'd like it. The manual explains a little more about > > how it picks a particular form for the structure. > > > > That function also does not do anything with central products. Hence if > > I type: > > StructureDescription(SmallGroup(32,50)) I get: > > "(C2 x Q8) : C2" when it's also a central product of Q8 with D8. It > > returns some pretty awkward answers for other larger central products. > > > > It also will usually not let you know how the split or non-split > > extensions work, so you might get two non-isomorphic groups that return > > the same "StructureDescription". > > > > Also be forewarned that many times GAP will just compute the whole > > subgroup lattice to find a structure, so any group that would take a > > long time with LatticeByCyclicExtension or ConjugacyClassesSubgroups is > > likely to take a long time for StructureDescription. This would > > include, for instance, 2-groups of rank more than 5, groups with large > > permutation representations or large matrix representations and also > > finitely-presented groups. It does have a separate routine for any > > simple group that spits out the answer due to the classification in > > almost no time, however, while it could easily tell me a group is > > isomorphic to, say U4(3), it would take much longer (and probably use up > > all of your RAM) to say a group is isomorphic to U4(3):D8. > > > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Heiko Dietrich <h.dietr...@tu-bs.de > > <mailto:h.dietr...@tu-bs.de>> wrote: > > > > Dear Paweł, > > > > you can use the command "StructureDescription": > > > > gap> for i in AllSmallGroups(1625) do > > Display(StructureDescription(i)); od; > > C1625 > > C325 x C5 > > C13 x ((C5 x C5) : C5) > > C13 x (C25 : C5) > > C65 x C5 x C5 > > > > The output is explained in the manual: > > > > http://www.gap-system.org/Manuals/doc/htm/ref/CHAP037.htm#SECT006 > > > > Best, > > Heiko > > > > On Tuesday 09 December 2008 20:56, Paweł Laskoś-Grabowski wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I have noticed that GAP Small Groups library provides useful > > > > information > > > > > on the structure of groups belonging to the layer 1 of the > > > > library, but > > > > > does not do so for (some) bit more complicated groups. I am rather > > > dissatisfied by the output > > > > > > gap> SmallGroupsInformation(1625); > > > > > > There are 5 groups of order 1625. > > > They are sorted by normal Sylow subgroups. > > > 1 - 5 are the nilpotent groups. > > > > > > How can I obtain such a pleasant info like the following? > > > > > > gap> SmallGroupsInformation(125); > > > > > > There are 5 groups of order 125. > > > 1 is of type c125. > > > 2 is of type 5x25. > > > 3 is of type 5^2:5. > > > 4 is of type 25:5. > > > 5 is of type 5^3. > > > > > > And, by the way, what does the colon stand for in the 125,3 and > > > 125,4 type descriptions? I failed to find the explanation in the > > > help > > > > pages. > > > > > Regards, > > > Paweł Laskoś-Grabowski > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Forum mailing list > > > Forum@mail.gap-system.org <mailto:Forum@mail.gap-system.org> > > > http://mail.gap-system.org/mailman/listinfo/forum > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Forum mailing list > > Forum@mail.gap-system.org <mailto:Forum@mail.gap-system.org> > > http://mail.gap-system.org/mailman/listinfo/forum -- Dipl. Math. Heiko Dietrich Department of Mathematics University Braunschweig Pockelsstrasse 14 38106 Braunschweig GERMANY Room: F 613 Tel: ++49 (0)531 391 7526 Fax: ++49 (0)531 391 8206 Email: h.dietr...@tu-bs.de _______________________________________________ Forum mailing list Forum@mail.gap-system.org http://mail.gap-system.org/mailman/listinfo/forum