personally i haven't been very happy with advanced circuits, but i don't
want to bash them at this time
I have used Imagineering for some double sided stuff and had a few
shorts (much like elsewhere, but did not order test)
I will say in their favor that on several orders their delivery time was
exactly as quoted and was pretty quick for no premium charge

but like you (but at yet another shop) i ordered AND PAID for elec test,
and the 5 out of 100 bds had bad shorts
when I called they looked into it and said that there was no test
i pointed out that I ordered test and they billed for test
so much for them, but i did at least recover the test fee

Dennis Saputelli

> I used the 'low bidder' to see how they were, and had some problems.
> This was Imagineering, also known as www.pcbnet.com
> They certainly had a good price, about half of what Advanced Circuits
> charged when I quoted these boards.  but, they made up a batch that
> had shorted two split power plane regions, and didn't detect this in
> the electrical test.  They remade the boards, and the 2nd batch had 3
> open tracks and a really nasty short between a power plane and the ground
> plane.  Of course, this was only found after the board was stuffed with
> about $1600 in parts.  I had to pump 6 Amps through the power plane
> to get enough voltage drop so I could locate the short.  I cut down into
> the board with an exacto knife to clear the short.
> 
> So, it became pretty clear that Imagineering will take your money for
> electrical test, but they obviously DON'T actually TEST the boards!
> YIKES!  But, after getting one whole batch that should have failed electrical
> test, and 4 boards on another batch that had single, random defects, there
> is no other conclusion!
> 
> Well, I have real concerns about doing business with an outfit like that
> again.  Anyway, I suspect that the risk of another disaster on a really
> complex multilayer board is just too high, so I probably won't have them
> do any more multilayers.
> 
> But, if the fabricator accepts payment for electrical test without doing it,
> who knows WHAT they do in the photoplotting department!
> 
> Jon

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