Dear oddpost

2.4.2b11 does not support mount-points containing "/".

The problem will be fixed in the formal 2.4.2 released
at the end of this month. Please wait for a while.

Tomoji TAKASU

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From: "oddpost" <oddp...@ya.ru>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:04 PM
To: "Open Source GPS-related discussion and support" <foss-gps@lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [FOSS-GPS] impressed

Dear Tomoji,
thanks a lot for your help and very quick reply. I very appreciate your comments. Could you please also let me know whether ntrip mount point can have slash in its name? ("/")
As an example:
Mountpoint:
Test/RTK

Ntrip Browser shows mount points successfully ("Test/RTK"), but after that in ntrip client options part of the mount point name goes to Port field (81/Test).
And of course after that no mountp error occurs.

Please check screenshot for your reference.

Thanks a lot!

On Mar 19, 2013, at 3:37 PM, "Tomoji TAKASU" <tt...@yk.rim.or.jp> wrote:

Dear oddpost

When working with Type 18 and Type 19 messages, should Input
Stream be set as (2) Base Station or (3) Correction?

Please set (2).

Options for positioning mode should be set as "Kinematic"?

If moving, set "Kinematic".
If stationary, set either "Kinematic" or "Static".

Tomoji TAKASU

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From: "oddpost" <oddp...@ya.ru>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:22 PM
To: "Open Source GPS-related discussion and support" <foss-gps@lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [FOSS-GPS] impressed

Hello,
I am trying to figure out rtknavi settings. I am using openmoko freerunner and would like to get relatively precise positioning (using RTK). I have access to ntrip, providing Type 1 (differential GPS corrections), Type 3 (BS parameters), Type 18 (uncorrected carrier phase measurements),
Type 19 (virtual distance uncorrected observations).

When working with Type 18 and Type 19 messages, should Input Stream be set as (2) Base Station or (3) Correction?
Options for positioning mode should be set as "Kinematic"?

The idea is to get the following simple architecture:
freerunner --> rtknavi <---- ntrip

Thanks a lot for your help
On Mar 16, 2013, at 11:46 PM, Artyom G <gnss...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

I also want to thank developers of RTKlib.
During last month one the students under my control tested nvs08c-csm with
RTKlib. At first we tried to get our coordinates relative to RTCM base
station. During 3 days the difference in fix-position coordinates didn't
exceed 1cm (on each coordinate). Distance between RTCM station and our
antenna was about 3 km. Then we determined coordinates between RTCM station and second reciever. And at the end we determined coordinates between two
nvs08c-csm receivers (baseline about 8m).

We also checked manually baseline distance between two nvs08c-csm receivers by subtracting coordinates of the first nvs08c-csm receiver (that were got
relative to RTCM station) from the coordinates of the second nvc08c-csm
receiver (that were also got relative to RTCM station). The result was the
same as RTKlib outputed.

I also appreciated strongly the posibility to stream data from receiver
through "strsvr". It was very comfortable to work with receivers output in
parallel with the student.

Thanks a lot for RTKlib.

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Michele Bavaro <mic.bav...@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

Great, thank you!

Too many times we hear the opposite.
I am glad that - for once - someone has been willing to share his good
results with RTKLIB combined with low cost receivers.
To cool down you enthusiasm a bit, I anticipate that you should not expect much difference between a LEA-4T and a NV08C-CSM. Carrier phase noise is similar and despite tracking Glonass, that is still hardly usable by RTKLIB
since it is affected by the well-known biases any Glonass receiver RF
receive path is subject to. And RTKLIB "auto-calibration" feature is still
not implemented.

If I am allowed, I am under the impression that Tomoji's development
road-map is adding more and more features to RTKLIB so that now resembles very much a professional product rather than an open-source *one-man*effort. Surely having multiple frequencies, multiple constellations, super standalone post-processing (PPP), and beautifully coloured GUIs is great and we are always grateful to him for that. But I wonder how many users desire to have a robust and very lean single frequency GPS RTK algortihm. One that can run headless on Android perhaps, or even on a STM32F4 bare metal. One that can fill the gap with the most common quirks of low-cost receivers (e.g. random phase slips) and use some sort of pre-processing
RAIM to indentify and exclude outliers. One that can be integrated in
robotic automatic guidance projects.

Back to receivers, the only real difference between NV08C-CSM and LEA-4T is that the latter is gone out of production several years ago, and uBlox has not replaced it with an equally performing module. 5T and 6T in fact
can only measure at 10Hz under certain conditions and they are not
certified to do that anyway.
So if you need a module to build a commercial product you only have three
choices right now: NVS NV08C-CSM, ublox 6T/P, and Skytraq S1315F-RAW.
Of the three, only the first has to my knowledge a clear development and upgrade path. There are rumors that the new revision of NV08C -to come out
later this year- will fully support Galileo and, as most of us know,
Galileo Signal In Space specifications guarantee interoperability with GPS
by design. Thus, as soon as there will be a sensible number of Galileo
birds in the sky, dual constellation low-cost RTK will become easily
useable by all of us. Not to mention dual frequency of course, as L5 and
E5a bands overlap.

Congratulations again and keep it up,
Michele



On 16/03/2013 09:04, napoleon wrote:

Hello,
My setup is:
Rover:40db tallysman antenna, lea-4t receiver
Base: leica 1202gg antenna ntrip caster connection,rtcm 3 data.
baseline 6.68 m
base -kinimatic solution
I searched for the lea-4t configuration, i set it up, i pressed ''start''and i had first fix after 1.5 minute and stable fix after 7 minutes....(less
than 2.5cm)-MY FIRST TRY
Looks like a joke.
I am totally impressed.
I am planning a new config with tallysman gnss antenna and nvs-08 and i am
afraid to imagine the result.
I will also test vrs and max solutions from the base network (i guess i can
feed max solution through rtcm 3 to rtklib)
Anyway i have to say again that i am impressed and to thank you ttakasu and
team.



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Dear Tomoji,
thanks a lot for your help and very quick reply. I very appreciate your comments. Could you please also let me know whether ntrip mount point can have slash in its name? ("/")
As an example:
Mountpoint:
Test/RTK


Ntrip Browser shows mount points successfully ("Test/RTK"), but after that in ntrip client options part of the mount point name goes to Port field (81/Test).
And of course after that no mountp error occurs.


Please check screenshot for your reference.


Thanks a lot!


On Mar 19, 2013, at 3:37 PM, "Tomoji TAKASU" <tt...@yk.rim.or.jp> wrote:


 Dear oddpost


   When working with Type 18 and Type 19 messages, should Input
   Stream be set as (2) Base Station or (3) Correction?


 Please set (2).


   Options for positioning mode should be set as "Kinematic"?


 If moving, set "Kinematic".
 If stationary, set either "Kinematic" or "Static".

 Tomoji TAKASU

 --------------------------------------------------
 From: "oddpost" <oddp...@ya.ru>
 Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:22 PM
To: "Open Source GPS-related discussion and support" <foss-gps@lists.osgeo.org>
 Subject: Re: [FOSS-GPS] impressed


   Hello,
I am trying to figure out rtknavi settings. I am using openmoko freerunner and would like to get relatively precise positioning (using RTK). I have access to ntrip, providing Type 1 (differential GPS corrections), Type 3 (BS parameters), Type 18 (uncorrected carrier phase measurements),
   Type 19 (virtual distance uncorrected observations).

When working with Type 18 and Type 19 messages, should Input Stream be set as (2) Base Station or (3) Correction?
   Options for positioning mode should be set as "Kinematic"?

   The idea is to get the following simple architecture:
   freerunner --> rtknavi <---- ntrip

   Thanks a lot for your help
   On Mar 16, 2013, at 11:46 PM, Artyom G <gnss...@gmail.com> wrote:


     Dear all,

     I also want to thank developers of RTKlib.
During last month one the students under my control tested nvs08c-csm with RTKlib. At first we tried to get our coordinates relative to RTCM base station. During 3 days the difference in fix-position coordinates didn't exceed 1cm (on each coordinate). Distance between RTCM station and our antenna was about 3 km. Then we determined coordinates between RTCM station and second reciever. And at the end we determined coordinates between two
     nvs08c-csm receivers (baseline about 8m).

We also checked manually baseline distance between two nvs08c-csm receivers by subtracting coordinates of the first nvs08c-csm receiver (that were got relative to RTCM station) from the coordinates of the second nvc08c-csm receiver (that were also got relative to RTCM station). The result was the
     same as RTKlib outputed.

I also appreciated strongly the posibility to stream data from receiver through "strsvr". It was very comfortable to work with receivers output in
     parallel with the student.

     Thanks a lot for RTKlib.

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Michele Bavaro <mic.bav...@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:


       Great, thank you!

       Too many times we hear the opposite.
I am glad that - for once - someone has been willing to share his good
       results with RTKLIB combined with low cost receivers.
To cool down you enthusiasm a bit, I anticipate that you should not expect much difference between a LEA-4T and a NV08C-CSM. Carrier phase noise is similar and despite tracking Glonass, that is still hardly usable by RTKLIB since it is affected by the well-known biases any Glonass receiver RF receive path is subject to. And RTKLIB "auto-calibration" feature is still
       not implemented.

If I am allowed, I am under the impression that Tomoji's development road-map is adding more and more features to RTKLIB so that now resembles very much a professional product rather than an open-source *one-man*effort. Surely having multiple frequencies, multiple constellations, super standalone post-processing (PPP), and beautifully coloured GUIs is great and we are always grateful to him for that. But I wonder how many users desire to have a robust and very lean single frequency GPS RTK algortihm. One that can run headless on Android perhaps, or even on a STM32F4 bare metal. One that can fill the gap with the most common quirks of low-cost receivers (e.g. random phase slips) and use some sort of pre-processing RAIM to indentify and exclude outliers. One that can be integrated in
       robotic automatic guidance projects.

Back to receivers, the only real difference between NV08C-CSM and LEA-4T is that the latter is gone out of production several years ago, and uBlox has not replaced it with an equally performing module. 5T and 6T in fact
       can only measure at 10Hz under certain conditions and they are not
       certified to do that anyway.
So if you need a module to build a commercial product you only have three choices right now: NVS NV08C-CSM, ublox 6T/P, and Skytraq S1315F-RAW. Of the three, only the first has to my knowledge a clear development and upgrade path. There are rumors that the new revision of NV08C -to come out later this year- will fully support Galileo and, as most of us know, Galileo Signal In Space specifications guarantee interoperability with GPS by design. Thus, as soon as there will be a sensible number of Galileo birds in the sky, dual constellation low-cost RTK will become easily useable by all of us. Not to mention dual frequency of course, as L5 and
       E5a bands overlap.

       Congratulations again and keep it up,
       Michele



       On 16/03/2013 09:04, napoleon wrote:

       Hello,
       My setup is:
       Rover:40db tallysman antenna, lea-4t receiver
       Base: leica 1202gg antenna ntrip caster connection,rtcm 3 data.
       baseline 6.68 m
       base -kinimatic solution
I searched for the lea-4t configuration, i set it up, i pressed ''start''and i had first fix after 1.5 minute and stable fix after 7 minutes....(less
       than 2.5cm)-MY FIRST TRY
       Looks like a joke.
       I am totally impressed.
I am planning a new config with tallysman gnss antenna and nvs-08 and i am
       afraid to imagine the result.
I will also test vrs and max solutions from the base network (i guess i can
       feed max solution through rtcm 3 to rtklib)
Anyway i have to say again that i am impressed and to thank you ttakasu and
       team.



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