No more fighting in the thread. I quit. The thread is not about me, nor about a single person. I would not like to consider personal things.
I *feel that* I am aware and I just liked to share things I knew. I hope I have succeeded to some extent. I quit because *its not my job* to force every people to be aware, and I don't like to press my jaws saying pleaseeeeeeee use these things like wikipedia. My intention was just make guys aware about things. I would just like to say about Ashes is : Ashes has done a great thing by editing wikipedia. Thanks Ashes. What I wanted was every people who read this thread might make an article, at least one in their whole life. There are 2 crore people in Nepal, may be one day there would be 2 crore articles about Nepal. May be .. I had to talk about Nepali. You too have to talk about Nepali language because if you or we don't do things, then no one is going to do that for us. The English have already done enough for their language. This stats might not surprise you because There are 2,048,328 articles in English wiki, and (नेपालीमा १,९०७ लेख छन्। ) in Nepali there are 1,907 articles not even 2 thousands, compared to 2 million from English. This is just a status of the most top ranked page a person would generally compare to. (source en.wikipedia.org, http://ne.wikipedia.org main pages top boxes of each) And please don't comment every line (except Ashes :P because I love his comments :) ). Just understand the gist of what I wanted to say. There are enough things for people who would like to do, may be a wikifest : http://wiki.fossnepal.org/index.php?title=Future_Activities May be its enough. I feel like I have talked too much. I need to stop. Finally Happy Vacation. On 10/11/07, Ashes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 10/11/07, Rajesh Pandey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 10/10/07, Ashes <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > Just fixed it. Thats why it is said that "Dont trust Wikipedia". Well > > > in fact don't trust anything. Its fixed now. > > > > > > Dear Ashes, I apologize to object you that: > > only we may not trust Wikipedia. The rest of the world trusts it. > > > > "'we' may not trust Wikipedia. The 'rest' of the world trusts it." > > I am a little confused who does 'we' represent in your sentence and who > does 'rest of the world' represent. > I think you have not read the credibility of Wikipedia. If not then go to > this page written by the officials of the wikipedia. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Credibility > > The first sentence says > "*Credibility* is one of Wikipedia's goals which it has struggled mightily > to attain, although in its first four years it has only had partial > success." > > > You might use google or Yahoo to search an article, both point wikipedia > > for most articles, definitions. The rating of these website is very good. > > > > Very True > > > Google says 7out of 10 > > users clicked wikipedia. These things suggest that people believe in > > Wikipedia. > > > > > > I can believe the first sentence although the source is not verified (if > you reply, then dont bother about the source, It seems logical that people > do). I disagree about the last sentence. It does not prove that people > believe in wikipedia. It shows that they visit wikipedia. Visiting wikipedia > and believing wikipedia is that difference that I want to make. > > If I want to search anything then I go to different search engine. No > doubt about that. Do I believe everything that it has said?? No. But I > definitely get the basic idea about what the thing is about. I read > wikipedia but that does not translate it to believing it. > > > The thing is we are not doing enough to make it trustable. It is the Internet > era. The > > main thing is where we are in this era. It may not be > > 20 years back, but surely we are lagging some years behind. > > > > Who does we represent. Mind that wikipedia was born just 4 years back. We > cant be 20 years back if it was created 4 years back. This sentence is > degrading to "we". > > > My presence might make a difference and your presence makes a > > difference.Our presence does make a difference. > > > > I believe in you we (all the people) can make a difference. > > That's why I am here I am trying to convince you these things. > > > > I didn't understand what are you trying to convince. Are you saying that > do believe in wikipedia and dont use your analytical skill to analyze it. > > Its the time to be alert, no one knows what happens next. > > > > True. Very True > > We need to modify these things to suit us, lets not modify ourselves to > > accept nasty things for granted. > > > > Sorry, I don't agree with it. "We need to modify these things to suit us," > Thats propaganda dude, the very definition of propaganda if you refer > "these" to "editing wikipedia". > > ", lets not modify ourselves to" > > I believe in this part. We don't want to modify ourself. We want to evolve > ourself. > > "to accept nasty things for granted" > The whole point of mine was not to accept the not only nasty but also > flattering thing for granted. Use your head. > > > Once again Thanks Ashes, I saw that you removed the terms pakhe and pale > > here<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nepali_language&diff=163563868&oldid=161600264>. > > ( > > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nepali_language&diff=163563868&oldid=161600264 > > ) Thanks for that. > > > > We are here to make some difference as you said. > > But at the same time I have a feeling like the others would not be able to > > > Who does others represent. > > But its just not about that. I could have also removed the words. > > > > Why didnt you? > > But I wanted to change the attitude. I wanted to show that look these > > things exist. What can you contribute to improve your > > identity. The identity you get after you are born. That is Nepali. > > > > You didn't change because you wanted to make some political statement that > we Nepalese are great. I can feel that. But lets not get flattered. We > should be aware of the negative things and positive things about us. Use > your head. Do the SWOT (Strength Weakness Opportunity and Threats) analysis. > The way you said represent (at least in my feeling) only Strength and > Opportunity. We are not afraid to listen to our weakness. > > The first > > word you learn after you start speaking, Nepali language. Oops!!. > > > > I learned gurung language when my mom gave birth. > > Every language is equally respectable, but its not > > about that. Its about how much active are the users who speak Nepali, to > > protect their image. > > > > > > Every language is equally respectable. I didnt do that to protect the > image of Nepali language. I removed it because it was wrong. Nepalese > Language is not a Pake language. Look in the same page, I didn't change the > fact that it is the language of Gurkha. Because it is fact. > > A respectful projection gives a respectful image. > > > > Its spreading propaganda. Any thing with full of real facts will always be > respected. I am a Nepali and its very very very very hard to control > myself if someone says bad things about Nepali or Nepal or Nepalese . But > we should always be aware that politicians know that and they will do > anything to get that feeling and get their goal. In fact they always have > been doing that. It goes to all the politicians of the world (I believe > Nepal is one of them). > > For those who did not find the article, it is still there if you like to > > see the history: > > here<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nepali_language&diff=163563868&oldid=161600264> > > > ::http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nepali_language&diff=163563868&oldid=161600264 > > > > > > Thanks for the heads up. > > > > > > -- > > > Regards > > > AD > > > > > > > > -- > > A wikipedian > > > > > > > I thank you for showing the wrong thing that was written about Nepali > language. I didn't like the idea that you encouraged the people of this foss > community to write only good things about Nepal and improve the image. > > -- > Regards > AD > > PS. 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