Great going!! glad to see the FOSS discussion thread.. hope to join in for 27 jan meetup ..
Regards, Pawan On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Subir Pradhanang <[email protected]> wrote: > Good going! My best wishes for the upcoming activities of FOSS Nepal! > > Let me know if I could be of any help. > > Cheers, > Subir > > On 25 Jan. 2018 3:13 am, "Sagar Chhetri" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Namastey, >> >> Momentum is on. >> >> Regards >> >> ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>¸. >> >> Mr. Sagar Chhetri >> *www.sagarchhetri.com.np* <http://www.sagarchhetri.com.np> >> *www.chitwanix.com* <http://www.chitwanix.com> >> >> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Dadhiram <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the mail. >>> >>> >>> On Jan 23, 2018 20:23, "Hempal Shrestha" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear All, >>>> >>>> It was a great meeting on January 19, 2018 at SAP Falcha. Thanks for >>>> those who showed up for the face-to-face meeting. Here is a brief outline >>>> of the discussion and action items from the meeting. >>>> >>>> *Present in the meeting* >>>> >>>> 1. Sushma Giri >>>> 2. Arjun Gautam >>>> 3. Nikesh Balami >>>> 4. Manish Marahatta >>>> 5. Suraj Sapkota Sata “Freeman” >>>> 6. Rumi Rajbhandari >>>> 7. Ravi Bhattarai >>>> 8. Hempal Shrestha >>>> 9. अभिनाश कुण्डलिया >>>> 10. Sanjog Singel >>>> 11. Surit Aryal >>>> 12. Manish Jung Thapa >>>> 13. Rhoit Man Amatya >>>> 14. Rupak Raj Rajghimire >>>> 15. Kapil Raj Nakhwa >>>> 16. Ashutosh Dhoj Joshi >>>> 17. Avash Mulmi >>>> 18. Budhiraj Tuladhar >>>> 19. Sagun Dhakhwa >>>> 20. Shirsti Baral >>>> >>>> *Topics for Discussion* >>>> >>>> 1. Re-activation of FOSS Nepal legal entity >>>> 2. Re-activation of the FOSS Nepal Community Activities >>>> 3. Closing Remarks >>>> >>>> *Discussions* >>>> >>>> 1. *Re-activation of FOSS Nepal legal entity- *Picking up from the >>>> previous meeting, the discussion primarily focused on proposing 11 >>>> community members who can commit time and energy and would than take up >>>> the >>>> responsibility to renew and activate the legal official entity of the >>>> FOSS >>>> Nepal Community. After a round of discussion and representative >>>> selection >>>> process, 11 community members listed below in the decision were >>>> identified >>>> and proposed to take up the responsibility of legal entity of FOSS >>>> Nepal. >>>> 2. *Re-activation of the FOSS Nepal Community*- The activities that >>>> need to be taken forward to re-activate the FOSS Nepal were discussed >>>> and >>>> listed in the action items below. These items will be discussed in >>>> one-by-one in the upcoming meetings and worked ahead for the conclusive >>>> outcome. >>>> 3. *Closing Remarks-* The members who were present there shared >>>> their personal aspirations as to how the community should evolve in >>>> coming >>>> days. The action items coming from these closing remarks have been >>>> documented in the decisions and action items. >>>> >>>> *Decisions and Action Item* >>>> >>>> 1. Eleven Community members who have shown commitment and were >>>> selected to take up the responsibilities of FOSS Nepal legal entity will >>>> take up the renewal process and function as the Committee Members. >>>> 1. Sagun Dhakhwa >>>> 2. Sushmita Pote >>>> 3. Basanta Shrestha >>>> 4. Hempal Shrestha >>>> 5. Avash Mulmi >>>> 6. Rumi Rajbhandari >>>> 7. Sushma Giri >>>> 8. Manish Marahatha >>>> 9. Kapil Raj Nakhwa >>>> 10. Ravi Bhattarai >>>> 11. Nikesh Balami >>>> 2. The above-proposed community members to take up the >>>> responsibility of the legal official responsibility of FOSS Nepal >>>> Community >>>> and perform their respective roles. >>>> 3. Monthly Meeting of the Legal Team and participation of the >>>> community observers to be conducted – Sagun, Avinash, Avash >>>> 1. On every last Saturday at 12:30 PM @ SAP Falcha (Odd month of >>>> English Calendar) >>>> 2. On every last Friday at 5:30 PM @ SAP Falcha (Even month of >>>> English Calendar) >>>> 3. The Venue and timing might change as per the need. >>>> 4. Work out for new tools for FOSS Nepal sustainability – Kapil, >>>> Rupak >>>> 5. Creation and application of Viber Group for communication- >>>> Hempal >>>> 6. Standard Operating Procedures (SOP) for working with the FOSS >>>> Nepal community and legal entity – Avinash >>>> 7. Sharing of previous learnings – Sagun >>>> 8. Identify and designate new representatives for >>>> 1. New Provinces (7) – Sagun >>>> 2. Colleges / Academic Institutions – Sanjog >>>> 3. Local Communities - >>>> 4. Other Institutions - >>>> 9. Formalize membership -To discuss >>>> 10. Revise and revisit the Technical Stuffs that FOSS Nepal >>>> Community has been doing – Rhoit >>>> 11. Activate bigger collaboration to assist FOSS Nepal becomes >>>> power developer and contributor to Open Source movement – Rohit , >>>> Shristi >>>> 12. Mentorship and make financial resource generation for FOSS >>>> Nepal- Ravi , Sagun >>>> 13. Discuss the meeting agenda on the wiki and mailing list >>>> 14. Make FOSS Nepal Calendar for 2018 - All >>>> 15. Work support the Nepal Government on FOSS, Work with 754 Local >>>> government units as well. >>>> >>>> >>>> *Closing Remarks* >>>> The Final closing remarks were shared by all the participants. Some of >>>> the issues which were raised has been listed in the action items as well. >>>> >>>> *Next Metting on:* >>>> >>>> *Date:* January 27, 2018 (Saturday) / Magh 13, 2074 - Last Saturday >>>> of every odd month (January - 01) >>>> *Time: *12:30 - 2:30 PM >>>> *Venue:* SAP Falcha, Babarmahal, Kathmandu, Nepal >>>> *Location Map*: http://bit.ly/2FiuPK5 >>>> *Topics / Agenda for Discussion*: >>>> >>>> 1. Responsibilities deligation for legal entity >>>> 2. FOSS Nepal Calendar for 2018 >>>> 3. Let's discuss >>>> >>>> I look forward for contributions and feedback, with kind regards, >>>> >>>> *Hempal Shrestha* >>>> *Volunteer - FOSS Nepal Community* >>>> >>>> >>>> G.P.O Box: 5501 | Kathmandu, Nepal >>>> Contact: +977-1-4261459 <+977%201-4261459> (Office) >>>> Cell: +977-9851077031 <+977%20985-1077031> | +977-9808166400 >>>> <(980)%20816-6400> >>>> Skype: hempalshrestha | Viber: +977-9851077031 <+977%20985-1077031> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: --] >>>> >>>> Hempal Shrestha >>>> [image: http://]about.me/hempalshrestha >>>> <http://about.me/hempalshrestha> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 1:07 PM, Hempal Shrestha < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Nootan and All,, >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Nootan Ghimire < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regarding Issues about Entity, I think that should be isolated with >>>>>> other parts of this discussion. Maybe just call for the people who are >>>>>> willing to assume the responsibilities, recognize them and move on. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes, I will also agree with your that we must deal with these two >>>>> issues saperately. It will give us more clarity and purpose for the >>>>> activities. Lets work out the details and try to revive the good >>>>> practices. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> Hempal Shrestha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On the account of moving on/structuring, My 2 cents are: >>>>>> >>>>>> - Lets Prepare a list of goals that we want to achieve as a FOSS >>>>>> community in nepal. (I can see there are five objectives listed on the >>>>>> wiki, maybe we need to revisit it again?) >>>>>> - Lets also prioritize those goals >>>>>> - Lets create action plans to achieve these goals (through community >>>>>> interaction, calling for ideas, basically talking about why and how), >>>>>> with >>>>>> room to add more. >>>>>> - Lets make sure that anything and everything we do aligns to those >>>>>> goals. (Which should also be a indicator to how successful we were on our >>>>>> respective priorities) >>>>>> - Lets reflect on ourselves periodically, recognizing and analyzing >>>>>> our actions, publishing them, and making amends. >>>>>> >>>>>> As such, I say lets create a detailed process of how we do things >>>>>> "The FOSS Nepal way". Lets throw a bunch of "why?"s to anything and >>>>>> everything we're planning to do, answer them and make sure everyone knows >>>>>> that. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm also willing to take part in such discussions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Saroj Dhakal < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm excited to see these discussions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Already great ideas have come, let's short list them and build >>>>>>> community consensus on it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm willing to contribute as much as I can, but unfortunately I'll >>>>>>> not be able to take part in the meeting today because of an activity >>>>>>> planned last week. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please accept my apologies. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let's do it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Saroj >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2018 1:10 AM, "Sanjog Sigdel" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *++Adding Aadesh dai and Samar dai in the loop( They are the ones >>>>>>>> who introduce to the FOSS world :) )* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adding to Prabin Sir's Point. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wouldn't it help if we also initiate FOSS NEPAL REGIONAL >>>>>>>> AMBASSADORS and COLLEGE AMBASSADORS? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Back in SFD 2015, there was a point during group discussion session >>>>>>>> which is "*Decentralizing FOSS activities in every possible corner >>>>>>>> of country to spread Open Philosophy*". I believe it is only >>>>>>>> possible if we recognize *contributors, communities and colleges *all >>>>>>>> over Nepal. Organization like Teach For Nepal has TFN College >>>>>>>> Ambassadors. >>>>>>>> Those Ambassadors act as a mediator between Colleges and TFN to >>>>>>>> organize >>>>>>>> events and promote campaigns. >>>>>>>> - Via these Ambassadors we can do back and forth communication >>>>>>>> among Communities and colleges. >>>>>>>> - College Ambassadors can share any updates from-to FOSS Nepal, >>>>>>>> help in providing resources from FOSS Nepal while their college >>>>>>>> Communities >>>>>>>> are organizing events >>>>>>>> - Regional Ambassadors can act as mediators between Open Source >>>>>>>> Communities of a particular region, College Ambassadors among that >>>>>>>> region >>>>>>>> and FOSS Nepal. >>>>>>>> - We can assign one member from each colleges for College >>>>>>>> Ambassadors >>>>>>>> - Regional Ambassadors can be chosen based upon particular regions. >>>>>>>> Just to make sure these ambassadors have proportionately handful of >>>>>>>> communities and College Communities to work with. >>>>>>>> - Let us also set a milestone of initiating small communities in >>>>>>>> new colleges and communities with proper co-ordination among College, >>>>>>>> Communities and their respective Ambassadors. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This month some of us Volunteers listed FOSS communities of Nepal >>>>>>>> in this repo: FOSS-COMMUNITIES-OF-NEPAL >>>>>>>> <https://github.com/FOSSKavre/FOSS-COMMUNITIES-OF-NEPAL>. We were >>>>>>>> able to list 22 of them. WOW :) >>>>>>>> But sad part is that some communities exists only as Names. So we >>>>>>>> might at least be able revamping our existing communities. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - I see this Concept of Ambassador as a way to gain core >>>>>>>> contributors in FOSS Nepal. And it will also help in building a >>>>>>>> organizational structure for Outreach Purpose. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So why not give it a try? >>>>>>>> हामीले पनि नगरे कस्ले गर्ला हैन त ? :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PS: Prabin dai - Last September KUOSC le organize gareko SFD 2017 >>>>>>>> maa ma lagayat kehi Kavre ko Volunteers haru milera FOSS KAVRE suru >>>>>>>> gareu >>>>>>>> :). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *SanjogSigdel* >>>>>>>> *Dhulikhel, Nepal* >>>>>>>> *Volunteer- KUOSC, FOSS NEPAL* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Founder- FOSS KAVRE* >>>>>>>> *M:977-9841497866 <984-1497866>* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:14 PM, Prabin Gautam < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Adding to Bobby's Suggestions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lets also think of FOSS Nepal Ambassadors. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FOSS Nepal members who are abroad and still willing/interested to >>>>>>>>> contribute can be made FOSS Nepal Ambassadors. They can involve their >>>>>>>>> network to bring project, program or do fundraise for the community. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I know Core FOSSians like Subir dai, Jwalanta, Abhishek, Akash, >>>>>>>>> myself, and many more are all around the world now. We should use this >>>>>>>>> potential and their network to take FOSS Nepal forward. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Bobby Basnet <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you Hempal dai for the note and adding me in this thread. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would love to join in the meeting tomorrow but I already have >>>>>>>>>> other scheduled meeting and won't be able to make it. So, I would >>>>>>>>>> like to >>>>>>>>>> voice my say in this email. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On the Polls: >>>>>>>>>> *Q1: *Yes, Definitely. >>>>>>>>>> *Q2: *No (Will follow and not lead and cannot make any >>>>>>>>>> commitment for 3 months at-least) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And here are my suggestions. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *1. Get more professors/teacher involved in the community.* >>>>>>>>>> From my experience being involved with the community, I have >>>>>>>>>> seen that the most active members are the students. As they graduate >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> move on with their lives their involvement with the community is >>>>>>>>>> almost >>>>>>>>>> non-existent. So if we could get more professors involved in the >>>>>>>>>> community >>>>>>>>>> who could advocate FOSS to their students this will produce a >>>>>>>>>> continuous >>>>>>>>>> batch of workforce who have the time and the energy to keep the >>>>>>>>>> community >>>>>>>>>> momentum going. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Action Plan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Reach out to the professors/teachers in our >>>>>>>>>> immediate contact and add them to the mailing list/Facebook >>>>>>>>>> Group/Viber >>>>>>>>>> Group so they are at-least informed about the community events >>>>>>>>>> and updates >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Create a team that would visit universities and colleges >>>>>>>>>> and meet the professors, make them aware about the FOSS community >>>>>>>>>> and add >>>>>>>>>> them to the community channels. It would be difficult to create >>>>>>>>>> team that >>>>>>>>>> would travel to each colleges. So this could be integrated with >>>>>>>>>> events such >>>>>>>>>> as Linux Talk, FOSS ka Kura, Hour of Code, etc where community >>>>>>>>>> memeber are >>>>>>>>>> are normally already willing to visit the campus as a resource >>>>>>>>>> person . They could be FOSS Nepal representative and we could >>>>>>>>>> provide with >>>>>>>>>> a formal letter in FOSS Nepal letterhead to make it seem more >>>>>>>>>> official. We >>>>>>>>>> should also have a template of such meeting, where we set agenda >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> immediate actions plans >>>>>>>>>> *. * >>>>>>>>>> - During events like SFD there is a always a praise worthy >>>>>>>>>> collaboration among students from different institutions. It >>>>>>>>>> would be >>>>>>>>>> better to get even different institutions involved and if not >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> at-least professor level collaboration too on such events >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *2. More open source projects. * >>>>>>>>>> Re-quoting Avash "FOSS doesn't mean only Linux". We should have >>>>>>>>>> more FOSS projects in our Github repo. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Action Plan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Encourage students to publish their project. >>>>>>>>>> Each semester hundreds in not thousands of software are >>>>>>>>>> developed by students from different colleges and universities. >>>>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>>>> develop the software, get graded and then are stored on the >>>>>>>>>> students's >>>>>>>>>> machine for ever. If we could advocate to these students that >>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>> projects need not have this faith. If only they pushed their >>>>>>>>>> project to >>>>>>>>>> Github Repo with a FOSS license, their project could have more >>>>>>>>>> visibility, >>>>>>>>>> could have real life implementation and potentially have other >>>>>>>>>> contribute >>>>>>>>>> to their projects and their legacy live on for ever. These >>>>>>>>>> projects are >>>>>>>>>> usually not made for commercial profit making use so they should >>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>> reluctant to publish their project. (Question though!!! Should we >>>>>>>>>> judge the >>>>>>>>>> quality of code and project? I vote No) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *3. Have more fun* >>>>>>>>>> While a student at Kathmandu University on SFD eve we had open >>>>>>>>>> discussion talks on FOSS. What is FOSS? What are it's merits? What >>>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>> be it's demerits? We also had candle walk, painting (logos of any >>>>>>>>>> Free and >>>>>>>>>> Open Software or anything that represents it) and Musical event. It >>>>>>>>>> helped >>>>>>>>>> us to create an image that we FOSSians are not just geeks with Linux >>>>>>>>>> in our >>>>>>>>>> computer. We are also friendly people who like music and to make >>>>>>>>>> friends >>>>>>>>>> and watch movies and have lovely conversation. Such event helped more >>>>>>>>>> people be aware about our community and made them easier to approach >>>>>>>>>> us. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As a result, we had relatively large FOSS Community there and >>>>>>>>>> even if not part of community still lot of people in the campus >>>>>>>>>> were aware >>>>>>>>>> about the FOSS movement. It is something we could learn and >>>>>>>>>> implement for >>>>>>>>>> FOSS Nepal as well. Moreover we also need to attract non-programmer >>>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>>> to our community ( who could contribute us in documentation, >>>>>>>>>> designing, >>>>>>>>>> administration or anything really). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Action Plan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Promote FOSS not only with technical presentations and >>>>>>>>>> talks but also with documentaries, movies that are made with FOSS >>>>>>>>>> tools, >>>>>>>>>> friendly non-formal meetups, MEME, musical events, etc >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *4. Linkup with International FOSS Communities, Chapters * >>>>>>>>>> Lets link up with national and international FOSS communities and >>>>>>>>>> other community that believe and promote FOSS ideology (Eg. Mozilla, >>>>>>>>>> Open >>>>>>>>>> Data, Wikimedia). They might have programs, collaboration proposal >>>>>>>>>> or even >>>>>>>>>> lessons for us that will help our community grow. We have our >>>>>>>>>> glorious >>>>>>>>>> history of best SFD celebrations globally. Maybe the veterans from >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> community can remember of some forgotten link with such communities. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Action Plan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Identify relevant communities, chapters, clubs both >>>>>>>>>> nationally and internationally and establish communication >>>>>>>>>> channel with >>>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>>> - Index the communities that we have communication with and >>>>>>>>>> Invite them to our events and meetups >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am sad that I won't be able to attend the meeting tomorrow and >>>>>>>>>> would be really happy if received similar note on tomorrow's >>>>>>>>>> meeting. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>> Bob >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Bobby Basnet >>>>>>>>>> Managing Director, Semantic Creation >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.semanticcreation.com/> >>>>>>>>>> Managing Director, VisualiseVR <http://www.visualisevr.com/> >>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +977 9841812820 <+977%20984-1812820> >>>>>>>>>> Skype: bobbize >>>>>>>>>> Kathmandu, Nepal >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Arjun Gautam < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I feel very happy to find that we all are interested in this. >>>>>>>>>>> Hope, to have a good meeting tomorrow. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Arjun >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:33 PM, [email protected] < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> me too, who else would be there >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 January 2018 at 14:32, manish thapa < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be there >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Pravin Raj Joshi < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please do let me know if you all feel I can be of any help in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any program or carrying out an activity. I am up for it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pravin >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/17/2018 11:00 AM, Prabin Gautam wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy to see good discussion going. Once we start and gain >>>>>>>>>>>>>> some momentum, we may partner with various organizations - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> governmental, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> universities and public or private organizations. To deal with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, just a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch of FOSSian will not be enough. Our Legal entity should be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of you know this and I strongly would emphasis on getting >>>>>>>>>>>>>> renewed in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> first phase. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In tomorrow's meeting, I wont be there but I expect the team >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to come with at least 2 concrete plans - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Where you see FOSS Nepal in 3 months >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Where you see FOSS Nepal in 1 year. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion, in three months we can at least do and not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> limited to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Renew FOSS Nepal and be legal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. have atleast 3 monthly meeting to track progress. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Update Web presence (Wiki/website), Bring our social >>>>>>>>>>>>>> networking tools to life - twitter, facebook page, youtube. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. revive our Youtube FOSS NP Weekly program. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the more event we organize, more involve we can be, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more volunteers, more spreading of FOSS, and more impact we can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> create. Few >>>>>>>>>>>>>> years back we started to bring all our Open Community in one >>>>>>>>>>>>>> place with a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consortium which was another great idea but didnot progress on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. Once >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we get back to momentum we can definitely use that platform to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> involve more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people and organizations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think our 1 year should be and not limited to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Annual Open Technology meetup (reviving FOSS Info Mela >>>>>>>>>>>>>> !! or developer's meetup type of program) 4/6 months to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SFD(Between >>>>>>>>>>>>>> March-May) . >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Annual SFD >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Few Concrete projects >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Reviving our Involvement in National ICT Activities as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stakeholder. like IT policy meetings, IT Curriculum, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conferences, Seminars, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Panel discussions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Continuing regular programs like FKK and FOSS NP weekly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Openthito >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:47 PM, Dadhiram < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> फोसमा आस्थाराख्ने उर्जासिल अभियान्ताहरू >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> नमस्कार >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paani Saffa Garnu Paryo ra Baani Sudharnu Paryo". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Action Item 3- Like bagmati को पानी । अहिले धेरै सुध्रिएको >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> छ । संखमुलमा चराहरू बाँच्न थालेकाछन् । त्यसैले हामीले पनि >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> आफुलाई हिट गर्न >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> लागेको कुरा केहि छ भने गरौ । कमुनिटिहो सकारात्मक सामुहिक हितको >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> लागि केहि >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> गरौ भन्ने सबैमा हुन्छ । गर्न केहि नसकेनि गफ गर्न एउटा फोरम >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> चाहिन्छ नै त्यो >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> अहिले नै छदैछ । सपार्न नसके नि बिगार्न हुन्न अहिले नि बिगारेको >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> केहि छैन । >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> समुदाय एउटा मानविय उर्जाहो प्रयोग गरेर घट्दैन बड्छ । जागौ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> आजैबाट केहि गरौ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> गर्नसके राम्रो गरौ नसके केहि नबिगारौ । गर्न पर्ने कुरा सबै >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> लिस्टेड छ । मेरो >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> आफ्नो उर्जा यति नै हो । * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *धन्यवाद * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *दधि * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Sanjog Sigdel < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Hempal Dai and Fossians, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy to see the discussions and updates about FOSS NEPAL. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our community is actually lagging behind while communities >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> composed of Volunteers from FOSS NEPAL are doing great. It is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good point to see communities fostering and spreading our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> common goal of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raising awareness about Open Philosophy. But then, at the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time, we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no clue in any milestone these communities achieve, if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FOSS Nepal is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credited ? And also FOSS Nepal is lagging commitment, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributions and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initiators which I think will be resolved if we keep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuing discussions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like these and also reach to some conclusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be there at tomorrow's meeting and will give my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commitment to take responsibility of leading at least one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project this 2018. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *SanjogSigdel * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Dhulikhel, Nepal* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *M:977-9841497866 <984-1497866>* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Volunteer:- KUOSC, FOSS NEPAL * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Founder:- FOSS KAVRE * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Pravin Raj Joshi < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I might not be able to make it to the meeting tomorrow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evening. Picking up from the questions that were written in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hempal Ji's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notes below are my comments and thoughts. I am a little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frustrated in that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others are blatantly saying things that should be contributed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to FOSS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> movement in Nepal, but people are taking charge of it. So I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am being a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little offensive. Please take it with a pinch of salt. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is Legal Entity? What did it do? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is talk of legal entity, when there is bare presence. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A legal entity matters if big enough so that it is visible. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is good to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have legal setup and all in place, but what is the value of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, if we get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all that, but the organization barely functions? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are WE (BIG Question Mark ??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are kinda stuck because he thought and even now think >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too small. It is time to become a vocal movement. Software, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security, data >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- all needs to be worked on. I saw an email thread where it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was said that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open data movement in Nepal started in 2011-2012. That is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shame for FOSS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nepal and personally for me as no one even raised a voice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against it. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is open data? -- it is the idea that some data should be made >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> publicly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available for public good. Who started this in Nepal??? I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not claiming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is FOSS Nepal or me. There are a lot of people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributed to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this from 1998-2012, who are just lost from that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation. If nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else, let's get the history right or even start a debate on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Renewal For (What) ?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a matter of concern at all. Renewal is just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part of administrative process and shouldn't even come up for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hand-over community and Lead-Legal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hand over to whom??? We have seen multiple organizations >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in last 17 years try to use FOSS for their own gains only. Do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you want to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hand over to them? Or to people whose primary interest is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own growth? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can, will not name, many people who have benefitted from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this. They have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> often claimed to me, in the face, that they can contributed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so much to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FOSS, but only thing that I see is their own direct benefit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with literally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing for FOSS Nepal. These people will readily take up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FOSS Nepal as it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means more for them. So kindly give me 5 names that all will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be comfortable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to hand over FOSS Nepal to. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Similar Structure or New Structure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why does structure matter when there is nothing happening? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it better go out and talk FOSS or is it better to sit down >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and think on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Membership - Updation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Membership will not happen when we are weak and people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim they are better and we cannot do anything about it. Due >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weakness companies now are flagship bearers for FOSS in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nepal. So people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and organizations promoting FOSS will go to them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Need a strong FOSS working team, How do we make it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now we need vocal team, who is able to shout, write >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and talk trash if need be to convince people that FOSS is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already relevant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Nepal and FOSS Nepal is the spearhead of it. Many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organizations have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started putting FOSS Nepal as a by-product to their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> achievements. We need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get out and provide ideas, support and help for FOSS in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nepal. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How active is the Community >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Community needs to be made active. Community will not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active if organization is not active -- "Paani ra Baani >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sadhai mathi bata >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tala bagcha". If we sit down and discuss, so will the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community. If we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actively engage, so will the community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being a little critical, but I am really >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frustrated at organizations and people claiming their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to FOSS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and reaping the benefit from it shamelessly utlizing it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My thoughts would be to update the team with people we can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find, mainly vocal ones. Create a set of programs that we can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute to and make it happen. I am pretty sure each one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us now is at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a stage where we can afford 5000-10000 rupees (one time) to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FOSS Nepal and help with initial push to change things. Also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we are at a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stage where we can all come up with 1-2 program ideas, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collectively pitch in and then we can create a small >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee that will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on the programs to carry out in coming year. Also we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can all set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside sometime to contribute to FOSS Nepal. Who will do it, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if we don't??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More thoughts, but I would prefer to follow others rather >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than lead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pravin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prabin Gautam >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> - MJT >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jesus had only 12 followers, but they were very good retweeters." >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - check my blog @ http://mjt.com.np >>>>>>>>>>>>> - twitter @mjt_emp3r0r <https://twitter.com/mjt_emp3r0r> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -volunteer @open community >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *DISCLAIMER* >>>>>>>>>>>>> This email contains confidential information and is intended >>>>>>>>>>>>> only for the individual named. 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