Isn't that what outsourcing is... skype: node.ue
2009/2/19 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>: > Hoi, > It is not outsourcing at all. Quite the contrary, it would be people from > elsewhere, people who are likely to be trusted from elsewhere editing our > content from somewhere else as well. In essence it would be an ultimate mash > up. > Thanks, > GerardM > > 2009/2/19 Chad <innocentkil...@gmail.com> > >> Was it ever on French servers? >> That aside: the two situations are entirely different. This proposal >> is effectively outsourcing a section of Wikipedia to some experts >> in the field. That's entirely unlike the Foundation deciding to add >> an additional language for Wikipedia to appear in. >> >> Playing devil's advocate here...it could honestly be an interesting idea. >> Provided the account on their end is attached to an account on >> our end (with no IPs, so no worries of using as a proxy), it could >> be entirely do-able. Editing can be done remotely via the API and >> content can be drawn down to their copies. Other than the live >> mirroring issue, it's entirely doable. >> >> -Chad >> >> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:37 AM, Gerard Meijssen >> <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> > Hoi, >> > The French Wikipedia may pre-date the WMF but the hosting of the French >> > Wikipedia has always been done by the WMF. So your argument is a bit >> flaky. >> > Thanks, >> > GerardM >> > >> > 2009/2/19 Mark Williamson <node...@gmail.com> >> > >> > > The French Wikipedia wasn't created by the Foundation. >> > > >> > > skype: node.ue >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > 2009/2/18 basedrop <based...@gmail.com>: >> > > > Hello Thomas and thanks for your response. >> > > > >> > > > I would point out that the foundation created a French version, >> hosted >> > > it >> > > > on French servers, in the French language because they saw the >> benefit >> > of >> > > > delivering something to a specific constituency. >> > > > >> > > > I don't have a particular need to have the art history portion of the >> > > wiki >> > > > editable for my users at my domain. I have the specialized users at >> my >> > > > site, I'd like to take advantage of that aggregation of specialized >> > > users >> > > > to the benefit of the wiki. If you guys don't have an API for me, >> > I'm >> > > > o.k. with that. >> > > > >> > > > Web content is becoming more integrated across multiple platforms and >> > > > domains. People can post to Facebook from twitter. People can >> check >> > > Gmail >> > > > from POP3 clients. People can post to a blog, and the data will >> > > instantly >> > > > replicate over multiple blogs around the world. I can pull data from >> > > > multiple sources and aggregate it with an rss feed reader. This is >> > the >> > > > direction content and the web is heading. >> > > > >> > > > Bring the users to one domain, and keep the content within that >> domain >> > > can >> > > > be called the "walled garden" approach. It is not a bad one, when >> you >> > > have >> > > > a need to control the users (e.g. facebook,) and the content. In >> the >> > > case >> > > > of the wiki, I'd suggest a more democratic approach of bringing the >> > wiki >> > > to >> > > > the people. You already do that with a push version of the wiki, >> I'm >> > > just >> > > > suggesting you take it one step further and make it editable. >> Imagine >> > > > sections of the wiki, right where the experts are aggregated. >> > > Space.com >> > > > hosting a concurrent version of the astronomy section. Technology >> at >> > > > slashdot.org. Law at nolo.com... you get the drift. >> > > > >> > > > You guys consider this. In the mean time I'll build up my site and >> my >> > > user >> > > > base. If there is a way to integrate in the future, I'll do that. >> > I'm >> > > > going to shoot for using openID, so this is just another reason for >> you >> > > guys >> > > > to consider the use of openID as well. >> > > > >> > > > Michael >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: foundation-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org >> > > > [mailto:foundation-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of >> Thomas >> > > Dalton >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:57 PM >> > > > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List >> > > > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] mirroring a portion of the wikipedia >> > > > >> > > > 2009/2/18 basedrop <based...@gmail.com>: >> > > >> >> > > >> Hello, >> > > >> I'm not sure if this is the place to pose this question, if not >> could >> > > you >> > > >> respond with the proper place. >> > > >> >> > > >> I'm building out a social networking site centered around an "art" >> > and >> > > >> "arthistory" theme. I would like to display a real time dynamic >> > version >> > > > of >> > > >> the arthistory section of the wikipedia at my domain. >> > > > >> > > > Possible, but unlikely to happen, I'm afraid. There is little to be >> > > > gained for us compared to you just sending people to the main site. >> > > > >> > > >>I would like for my >> > > >> users to be able to edit this section at my domain. >> > > > >> > > > I don't think that's possible - at best all the edits would be from a >> > > > single account, and we don't really like group accounts. >> > > > >> > > >> My domain is >> > > >> arthistory.com. I am hoping to be able to provide a lot of >> acedemic >> > > and >> > > >> specialty users to this section via my site. I think we could both >> > > > benefit >> > > >> from this relationship. My users have direct access to the >> arthistory >> > > >> section of wikipedia, the wikipedia gets access to my users who are >> > > > experts >> > > >> in the field. >> > > > >> > > > We would very much like to encourage your users to edit Wikipedia, >> but >> > > > it really would be much easier for us if they just came to our site. >> > > > Is there some reason why they particularly need to be doing it from >> > > > your site? >> > > > >> > > >> I understand you can get a feed of the wikipedia, and also >> > > >> a database dump, but I'm looking for a more real time and dynamic >> > > >> connection (without just putting the wikipedia in an iframe.) >> > > > >> > > > I don't know of anything like that being done before. If it's just >> one >> > > > section of the site you could probably mirror it pretty well by >> > > > crawling it once a day or so - we don't like people crawling the >> whole >> > > > site, but one section shouldn't be a problem. If you want it >> > > > completely up-to-date then you need to access the Wikipedia servers >> > > > for each request, so you might as well just be on wikipedia.org >> > > > >> > > >> I'd also >> > > >> prefer if I could use openID or some way of repurposing my user's >> > > >> registration to duel register with my site and with wikipedia, and >> > > create >> > > > a >> > > >> login session for both simultaneously. >> > > > >> > > > I'm sorry, we don't use openID on Wikipedia. It has been suggested, >> > > > and it's possible we will in the future, but we don't right now. >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > foundation-l mailing list >> > > > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > > > Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > foundation-l mailing list >> > > > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > > > Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > foundation-l mailing list >> > > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > foundation-l mailing list >> > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l