-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: >> This isn't an ideal situation. We should have a situation in which >> Jimmy's technical power derives from the authority of the board of >> trustees or from a community mandate, or we should have a situation in >> which Jimmy does not have unlimited technical power. > > I don't think this is a technical issue at all. Considering how > flexible and reversible wiki-actions are, it seems eminently > appropriate to me for the project founder to have 'unlimited technical > power' on the projects -- just as you and all of our developers do, at > a much higher level.
The difference is that they don't use their access in ways that affect the editor communities so directly. Sure, a software update might get botched for a few minutes, or maybe some people don't like Vector so much. But system administrators aren't deleting content en masse in cases that are really *really* unclear. That's where the difference lies. If Jimbo's going to be a figurehead, I think we can live with him having essentially unlimited technical access on the wikis. If he's going to actually use it, he needs a community mandate. Recall, he *didn't* found all the wikis, and he *doesn't* edit most of them regularly. Recall that English Wikipedia is in a special position (whether you think that is good or bad) in that he actually did start that wiki, and he hangs around the wiki sometimes. Not so for most of the Wikimedia universe. It shouldn't be surprising that those other wikis are less tolerant of his derisive attitude towards disagreements they may have with this actions - - either the means or the ends. - -Mike -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkvlgkwACgkQst0AR/DaKHsGmgCfd6apPpIOOMO1cm8+NFzH7Bso y8AAn2aPD1mtzIGN6eEGwO4v6FkdDSEd =/uxv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l