:) ok then. thank you. i should ask first whether wikipedia collects logs. 2010/11/28 aude <aude.w...@gmail.com>: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 2:30 PM, <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote: > >> I'm afraid our Tatar is correct in some senses and others in this thread >> are in a failing or failed mode. >> >> Each web server, of which the WMF has a few, collects details on the >> behaviour of IPs, in logs. Those logs can be and probably have been >> requested by >> certain government officials, most likely for the purpose of tracking down >> who is behind a certain "Bad" posting to a BLP. >> >> > CheckUser data (IPs of editors) are kept for 3 months. > > http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/CheckUser.php?view=markup > > WMF does not keep apache logs which would track what pages people are > reading.'' > > http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/httpd.conf (see CustomLog which is commented > out, meaning that access logs are not kept) > > There are some logs for the squid servers which are used to generate page > view stats, but those take a 1/1000 sample and there are full squid logs for > click throughs on the fundraising banners. > > http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Squid_logging > > So, we do not have readership logs except for the sampled squid logs. For > performance reasons, it's not desirable to collect more detailed logs, nor > would we really want them. > > -Katie (@aude) > > >> In addition, courts can make such orders in order to determine an otherwise >> "John Doe" named in a suit, such as for libel, etc. It's happened it will >> continue to happen, the WMF does keep such logs. >> >> Knowing the IP, it can then be tracked back to that user's ISP and a log >> again requested to determine the exact person, or at least business or >> household, who used the IP at that exact time. So playing with words, >> doesn't let >> us get around that point. >> >> I'm still not clear why we would want to know the IP exactly for analytical >> purposes. Some intrepid programmer could write a program which would >> simply collect detailed analysis of a person's in-world behaviour and call >> them >> "Bob992" instead of 13.42.204.192 or whatever. Making the information >> packets anonymous. That would still allow any sort of analysis the Tatars >> want to >> make, and not reveal any private information. > > >> W >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >
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