On 02/28/2013 03:25 AM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
So "Sulphur" then? It is the next element in the same group of the periodic
table and twice as heavy as Oxygen? Moreover hints at being a bit evil and
vile.

Won't work.  The truth is:
 1.) most don't kown/know their current state.
 2.) those that do, are rightly wanting to align properly.
 3.) loss of naturally good talent (it only takes one bad idea to misguide)
 4.) draw of skilled talent that binds contention.
5.) there is a measurable force that supports M$'s (project of the day). The force involves collective conscientiousness. And control over perception. The social fabric is presently being shaped in their favor. From our perspective, no-one ever lost their teeth buying Microsoft's Windows. But from their perspective, no-one ever lost their job buying a M$ project. Both perceptions are negative towards the truth. Proof to me that they have successfully adopted a viable strategy. 6.) Collective conscientiousness demonstrates that Pascal is a dead language. So either we overcome the notion that the language is dead (my favourite) or perhaps call it something else and try to ignite a spark and see what happens.

The idea behind hinting on that last bit is if we simply admit we are dirty, we 
won't
have any useless cleanness discussions anymore?


With strong acting/performance project, cleanliness is just inherent. So I would say sure. With such a project, bad code would be limited to reflect on the code contributor/creator. But to 1.) above, wrongly kowning up to bad code contributions is my largest genuine concern.



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