I was actually referring to FM but thanks for the Microsoft link. Ribbons are for typewriters not software.
-----Original Message----- From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:shmue...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:06 PM To: Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHDB Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: RANT: FM 9.0 - By menu-to-ribbon, are you referring to Word? If yes, click on this link, then click "Start the guide": http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/interactive-word-2003-to-wor d-2007-command-reference-guide-HA010074432.aspx Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 03-Aug-10 6:50 PM, Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHDB wrote: > Why Adobe would want to emulate Microsoft is beyond me. What's next, a > dancing paper clip? > > We actually purchased 9.0 then down-graded (yes, you can do that) to > FM8. High volume shop, NO time for an (un)learning curve. > > Are there any menu-to-ribbon road maps that one might recommend? > Eventually, a CMS upgrade will force us to go the FM9. > > -----Original Message----- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 11:36 AM > To: Venkat; Bill Swallow > Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: RANT: FM 9.0 - > > I was cranky about it at first, but I got used to it. > > Nadine > > --- On Tue, 8/3/10, Bill Swallow<techcommd...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> From: Bill Swallow<techcommd...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: RANT: FM 9.0 - >> To: "Venkat"<venkat.par...@gmail.com> >> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 10:27 AM >> >>> Can these behavior be changed. I >>> >> do not want dialogs to be persistent. I do >> >>> not want the "Not Applicable" element as the first in >>> >> any selectable list. >> >> I don't know. You may need to take some time to wade >> through maker.ini >> and see if there's anything in there that can be changed. >> >> >>> IMHO, the changes made in FM9 are just eye-candy and >>> >> do not add anything to >> >>> the whole experience of working with Frame Maker. In >>> >> fact, I find it a bit >> >>> of a chore to use it. >>> >> I agree with this. Jumping into FM9 after having used FM >> for roughly >> 12 years was a bit of a surprise. While I didn't have time >> to poke >> through every feature, I had difficulty wrapping my head >> around the UI >> for conditional text (I'm still fuzzy on the order in which >> selections >> need to be made in the UI in order for things to "stick"). >> Granted I >> was in the "UI changes are not necessary" camp from the >> beginning - >> because the tool worked very well, as ugly as it may have >> been - but I >> think too much time was spent upgrading the UI and not >> enough time was >> spent use testing with veteran users. >> >> Just as with the MS Office ribbon, one should not have to >> completely >> relearn how to use software after a UI update. 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