Ooooh! They won't fall for your Jedi mind-tricks! I bet there's beer involved in this somewhere, right Bill?
-----Original Message----- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Swallow Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:15 AM To: Writer Cc: framers Subject: Re: Scary responsibility in job ad Don't you see that this is a mirror argument? Let me rephrase what you're saying: > What I object to is putting the burden and responsibility on the engineer, > rather than where it belongs...on the writer. I've worked with very few > writers who wanted to improve their involvement in product development or who > even cared. Most writers I've worked with just want to do what they are told > to do; they don't want to get into the nuts and bolts. IMHO, this requirement > is setting we engineers up for failure. Just because the company wants the us > to communicate more effectively, it doesn't mean that the writers want to, > are motivated to, or would willingly cooperate with such "coaching". < Don't look at it as a burden, but an opportunity to collaborate. Yes, engineers work very differently from writers, but a writer's honed skills at audience analysis can certainly be reverse-engineered to look at author-analysis, see what their workflow and workloads are like, and work WITH them to develop means for improvement. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Writer <generic...@yahoo.ca> wrote: > What I object to is putting the burden and responsibility on the tech > writer, rather than where it belongs...on the engineer. I've worked with > very few engineers who wanted to improve their communication skills or who > even cared. Richard, in your case, you were asked by people who were > motivated to learn, and that's great; however, your experiences do not > reflect mine. Most engineers I've worked with just want to do what they are > told to do; they don't want to discuss it or describe it. > IMHO, this requirement is setting the tech writer up for failure. Just > because the company wants the engineers to communicate more effectively, it > doesn't mean that the engineers want to, are motivated to, or would > willingly cooperate with such "coaching". > Nadine -- Bill Swallow Twitter: @techcommdood Blog: http://techcommdood.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to framers as jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonassoftware.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.