In my experience, an ongoing expense - small or not - would be a non-starter. 

You must have experience with employers who actually look at the details, and 
not just the surface.

I'm lucky now, as that's no longer the case for me, but I've lived it many 
times.

Alison


-----Original Message-----
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:26 AM
To: John Posada
Cc: Alison Craig; FrameUsers List
Subject: Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

I have to agree with John, and last year I would have totally bet the other way.

I was, accidentally, an early Cloud subscriber because I couldn't afford to set 
up new systems with new software. But I could handle the
$1 a day charge paid monthly, so that's what I opted for, and it's been fine.

The software is always up to date and if I need a package that I don't have 
installed, it's just point and click without an additional charge.

So far, the model's working well for me.

Art

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On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:18 PM, John Posada <jposad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Actualy, i think they would jump on it.  They can spread out the cost 
> evenly over a period of time and if the employee leaves, they can stop 
> the charges...they arent out the full cost. It also changes from 
> capital purchase to operating expense that is treated differently on the 
> books.
>
> On May 9, 2013 1:12 PM, "Alison Craig" <alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com> wrote:
>>
>> It's not just freelancers that will be affected. Until my company was 
>> recently purchased by a larger organization, I had always worked for 
>> small to medium-sized businesses as the sole writer. Trying to get a 
>> budget for tools could be like pulling teeth. I somehow doubt most of 
>> my former employers would ever go for the subscription model.
>>
>> Which means for many sole writers, it will be back to using Word!
>>
>> Alison
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
>> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer
>> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 9:57 AM
>> To: Steve Rickaby; framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be 
>> subscription only
>>
>> I was wondering when someone was going to bring this up. I share your 
>> sentiments/fears exactly, Steve.
>>
>> Nadine
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Steve Rickaby <srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk>
>> > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> > Cc:
>> > Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:37:59 PM
>> > Subject: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription 
>> > only
>> >
>> > I have just heard a rumor that the CS Suite is going to available 
>> > in future only on an SaaS basis, by subscription. TCS/FrameMaker 
>> > could follow?
>> >
>> > I do wonder whether the accountants that run large corporates like 
>> > Adobe understand how important their software is to the countless 
>> > thousands of freelances who have to scrape every last penny to buy 
>> > it
>> > - but at least then they own something, not vapor that goes phut as 
>> > soon as you stop paying for it.
>> >
>> > For the last two decades FrameMaker, Illustrator, Acrobat and 
>> > Dreamweaver have been the rocks underpinning what I do. I'm far 
>> > less sure about the future, though.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Steve [somewhat aghast]
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