Fair enough, Steve. Although in all seriousness, I wonder is it worth trying some other print-houses? The one you're using seems to think it's still 1983 :)
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk] Sent: 13 December 2013 16:18 To: Davis, David; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: CMY data in PDF for JPEGs [do have workaround, but just) At 02:55 -0600 13/12/13, Davis, David wrote: >Not wanting to be contrary here, but why does the PDF have to be only >grayscale, just because it's going to be printed in black and white? Surely >the printer driver should be perfectly capable of making intelligent decisions >about converting the colours to grey. Apparently not - I've tried it. >(And, indeed, it will make better decisions than you can earlier in the chain, >cos it will know more about the output device). Actually, for all the book's I've sent to press, I've known more or less nothing about the output device(S) - I just get a pre-press spec from the printers, which often takes the form of a Distiller jobspec file. However, I do know a range of things that must not be in the pre-press file, such as hairlines. And color ;-) >I mean, for instance, any domestic or office printer in existence will happily >print in greyscale if you feed it a colour file (there's usually a checkbox >somewhere in the print dialog). I'm sure most of us do and see this every day. > I appreciate some things look better than others when neutered like this >(some hues of colour won't give very good contrast against each other in grey) >... but the remedy for that is more in choosing the colours in the first >place, not in some fancy 'conversion to greyscale' process. For instance I >can't think that green text on an orange background is ever going to be very >clear in greyscale, no matter what point in the chain you convert it. Well I'm not going to argue with you, but I have a pre-press spec to work to, and it disallowed C, M and Y channel data. -- Steve *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys plc, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. You may contact Invensys plc on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
