Lin...I'd be fine with that if you want to take the time.

Right now, cost of the application is not a factor (well...you know, within 
reason...no 250k enterprise application, but within a couple $k)... All I would 
need is a pointer to the application...I'll take it from there. You can use my 
name, but you cannot use my bank's name.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc....@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:22 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

If you're not active on the Adobe Forums, I can ask there if anyone is aware of 
a program that will import Frame binary and convert to a new format. Do you 
want me to? And if so, how would you like the information conveyed?

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:15 PM <john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com> wrote:

> I'd think a vendor would say I'm going to create an application that 
> kicks FM's butt and as part of it, can ingest FM files.
>
> What do I know. Thanks everyone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> us.hsbc....@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Prentice
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 2:12 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files
>
> This isn't an unusual request (to migrate to another tool) .. but 
> typically when someone is a "FM user" with FM files, they would have 
> FrameMaker available to export to a neutral format.
>
> FM isn't used by enough people to warrant creating a separate 
> application for migration.
>
> ...scott
>
>
> On 2/11/19 10:57 AM, John Posada wrote:
> > This conversation has been an eye-opener. I cannot believe that 
> > nobody has come along and offered an application for people who are 
> > FM users but want to migrate to another vendor for some reason.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM Peter Gold 
> > <peter@petergold.photography>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, John:
> >>
> >> My point was that if the company was using InDesign, it would have 
> >> to be an early-enough standalone version that doesn't phone home to 
> >> Adobe. I use ID
> >> CS6 standalone/non-subscription.
> >>
> >> Perhaps the question has evolved to what applications are 
> >> acceptable on the corporate network, and which of them do folks on 
> >> the list think is the best one to migrate to, so as to avoid having 
> >> to slog through this effort going forward?
> >>
> >> Despite its age, FrameMaker is still a great tool for the task of 
> >> technical writing and publishing. However, security issues in the 
> >> computing environments where it's used have become serious 
> >> considerations, so, to wit:, hence, therefore, and etc.....
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:26 PM <john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Peter...it's not the process for exporting/converting that's 
> >>> the
> >> issue.
> >>> I got all that. I did it all the time to allow my user base to 
> >>> make their edits.
> >>>
> >>> The issue is installing and licensing the application. It WOULD be 
> >>> installed on a standalone...mine. It still needs to validate by
> >> connecting
> >>> to Adobe, and that's a problem.
> >>>
> >>> BTW...all Adobe products do that, so bring ID into the equation 
> >>> does nothing.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> >>> us.hsbc....@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold
> >>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:20 PM
> >>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
> >>> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured 
> >>> files
> >>>
> >>> Looks like my earlier response got truncated. Apologies for any
> >> confusion.
> >>> Would it be acceptable to install FM on a stand-alone machine, 
> >>> save as MIF, and export/convert to formats of apps the corporate 
> >>> network
> >> supports,
> >>> then copy these outputs to the network? Or, have that work done by 
> >>> a service?
> >>>
> >>> If a non-subscription version of InDesign is used on the corporate 
> >>> network, a round-about approach could be to use the  DTP Tools - 
> >>> MIF
> >> Filter
> >>> for Adobe InDesign <http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=mfid> 
> >>> to convert MIF files InDesign. Within InDesign's own limits and 
> >>> abilities,
> >> the
> >>> conversion retains most, FrameMaker text formatting features and 
> >>> specifications, and does its best to emulate page layouts.
> >>>
> >>> HTH
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:28 AM John Posada <jposad...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi, guys...I have 5 years of FM files and my company doesn't like 
> >>>> FM installed on their network.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are there any other applications that can be installed and open 
> >>>> native FM
> >>>> 11 files and retain most of the FM functionality, especially the 
> >>>> book paradigm?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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