LOL! How I wish. Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com -----Original Message----- From: Framers On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 3:23 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Reference question Just cite the "Friends" episode and provide a link to it? :) On Tue, Sep 28, 2021, 4:16 PM wrote: > OK, I know this is off-topic but because this list is filled with > seasoned veterans of technical writing, I know I can get my answer > here. I am working on the references for a client document, and have > to sort through the existing references that I was given and make sure > it is accurate, current, etc., and I came across a couple of instances > of a reference within a reference such as: > > > > Rodgers, T., Leahy, D., et al. (2005). "Physiologically based > pharmacokinetic modeling 1: predicting the tissue distribution of > moderate-to-strong bases." J Pharm Sci 94(6): 1259-76. > > > > Rodgers, T., Leahy, D., et al. (2007). "Rodgers T, Leahy D, Rowland M. > 2005. > Physiologically based pharmacokinetic modeling 1: Predicting the > tissue distribution of moderate-to-strong bases. J Pharm Sci > 94:1259-1276." J Pharm Sci 96(11): 3151-3152. > > > > You can see that the first reference is embedded/cited in the second > reference. This was not the way that I was taught a gazillion years > ago to cite an embedded reference. Basically, if the content of the > embedded reference was standalone in a new reference, regardless of > the source, then the new reference was all that was cited, for example: > > > > Rodgers, T., Leahy, D., et al. (2007). Physiologically based > pharmacokinetic modeling 1: Predicting the tissue distribution of > moderate-to-strong bases. > J Pharm Sci 96(11): 3151-3152. > > > > I looked at these papers and the content was standalone in the second > reference and it cited the first reference for the content, but > because the content was standalone in the second reference, I should > cite only the second reference where appropriate. (God, does that even > make sense. . . I am thinking of the Friends episode, "The One Where Everybody Finds Out," > and > they don't know that we know that they know and Joey loses his mind.) > > > > I just need some advice from some seasoned writers about how to handle > this. > > > > Thanks! > > > > TVB > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > < > https://home.mcafee.com/utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign= > sig-e > > mail&utm_content=emailclient?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_camp > aign=s > ig-email&utm_content=emailclient > > > Scanned by McAfee > < > https://home.mcafee.com/utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign= > sig-e > > mail&utm_content=emailclient?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_camp > aign=s > ig-email&utm_content=emailclient > =sig-email&utm_content=emailclient?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&ut > m_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>> > and confirmed virus-free. > _______________________________________________ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > _______________________________________________ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com Scanned by McAfee and confirmed virus-free. Find out more here: https://bit.ly/2zCJMrO
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