whit wrote: > Martin Aspeli wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> I'm quite intrigued by the AJAX discussion going on, and I'd like it >> to be left alone to play out for a little while longer, but I'm also >> struggling to understand it and put it in context. I'm guessing others >> may feel the same. >> >> So I thought, why not offer an "AJAX challenge". Let's list a few >> things we'd like to do with AJAX in Plone, such as an AJAX navtree, a >> better LiveSearch and limi's ÜbserSelectionWidget idea, drag-and-drop >> folder re-ordering, drag-and-drop copy/move of objects, in-place >> editing of Archetypes fields or tab-switching without reloading the >> page (those are the big ones I can think of now, anyway). Then we'll >> invite proponents of various approaches to submit some information on >> how they'd solve one or a few or all of those with their solution of >> choice, and ask some tough questions, around i18n, l10n, ability to >> fall back on a non-JS version, what the developer needs to learn, how >> hard it will be to customise templates using these types of features, >> how much it would add to the download of a plone page in added JS etc. >> >> I'm hoping for something more than "look at this vaguely related code >> in svn" because that puts all the work of putting the pieces back >> together on the reader, and I don't think we'll get enough people >> understanding it well enough for that to be effective. However, we >> also wouldn't need full working implementations, just enough >> background and informed guessing that we can make an informed decision. >> >> Do you think this is a good idea? How would you like to conduct it? Is >> this a potentially useful role for the framework team to play when >> there are important descisions to be made like these that perhaps not >> everyone fully understands? > > it's worth a try. > I would say your role is to facilitate making your later decision easier. > in that light what I'd suggest is put it those doing ajax (ben, gotcha, > florian, rocky, etc) and let them run the challenge (since I think we > probably want them working together to figure out where their approaches > complement and overlap since the problem being solved are not exactly > interchangeable). It encourages collaboration, and those doing js > will hopefully arrive at the same conclusion at the end of how things > should work. > > then all you have to do is rate the quality of the work that comes in > having delegated the decision to those with expertise.
For the record, I support this idea. But WRT to my own ajax experiences I'd like to say that I didn't have a lot of time to spend figuring out which ajax library I liked the best and for the simple things I did in Ploneboard it didn't seem like any of the libraries would do much more than save me 1 or 2 lines of code, so I did most stuff manually. So I'm just as eager to hear the outcome of this discussion as you all :) - Rocky -- Rocky Burt - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.adaptivewave.com Content Management Made Simple _______________________________________________ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
