If you plan to work on these films from your homemade HD video transfers, you do NOT want to transfer them to 29.97 fps via a telecine projector. The resulting footage will be filled with blended frames making editing difficult.
Instead find a cheap used HD camcorder that does 24P -- lots of Canons do this. You could find one that won't record to tape (broken transport) and just record to computer via FireWire. It will probably cost less than getting a new projector since a conventional projector will do (won't be perfect, you may get occasional frame drift) but it will be better than a telecine projector by far. If all you want are rough viewing copies then telecine at 29.97 will be ok. But don't let the fact you own a particular Sony camcorder determine how you make these rough copies. Good luck! On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:14 PM, "k. a.r." <a_r...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, I will have to look for a telecine I guess, > > What I am doing, and I should have clarified earlier, is trying to make some > digital copies from my 16mm "found" footage collection, > certain films from my collection that I use in the Electric Mural Project. > > I have over 500 films, > so paying anyone for any kind of professional transfer is extremely > impossible. > > There are some films that I want to share with other people, and also I have > realized that I will probably never make art with an actual film optical > printer again > ( heartbreaking thought ) > so I wanted to make some digital copies to work with on the computer, to see > if I could make some moving visuals art again. > > That's it. thanks every one for the advice. > > Kristie > > > > > Kristie Reinders, B.F.A. > Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions > Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project > The Mission, San Francisco, CA > > 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.' > - - - Issac Asimov > > > From: djte...@gmail.com > > Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 15:21:03 -0400 > > To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] homemade video copies of 16mm > > > > To clarify, the OP requested advice on a cheapo projector-and-camcorder > > transfer. > > > > There are lots of reasons for people to do this, especially with work in > > progress. It might even be considered a video work-print. However, for > > serious work shot in film that is going to be distributed in digital form, > > a proper scan is the way to go. k.a.r may not be at that point yet, or may > > have a different purpose in mind. In no way did I mean to suggest that > > telecine-by-projection is a substitute for a proper scan. It's not. > > > > Of course, a lot depends on the aesthetic strategies involved. People go > > lo-fi for a reason, with everything from Super-8 to Pixelvision to funky > > compressed Quicktimes. A DIY telecine could be fine for certain limited > > kinds of things - including the transfer of already 'distressed' archival > > material to be included in a doco. But if you see the work in your > > mind's-eye as lovely rich filmic imagery, (generally transfers of film you > > shot yourself) trying to save the cost of a scan is penny-wise and > > results-foolish. > > > > Though I have no personal experience with Bito and Miko, or Kinetta > > transfers, I trust Jeff's unquestioned expertise in these matters, and were > > I in need of a scan, I would be eager to investigate any suggestion he > > would have. > > > > On Jun 23, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote: > > > > > Since you are in the Mission, you might consider getting a proper scan of > > > your film instead of subjecting it to a projector and camcorder. Note > > > that you will be getting a video with combined fields that often blend > > > two frames together -- and unlike a conventional telecine with real 3:2 > > > pulldown the cadence isn't locked to anything and will drift. > > > > > > Buck Bito and Jennifer Miko run the Video Transfer Center on Van Ness -- > > > they are relocating in a couple of weeks and will have a new, far better > > > name. They do excellent work in any format -- 8mm, S8, 9.5mm, 16mm, S16, > > > 17.5mm, 28mm, and 35mm. > > > > > > Disclosure: they have a shiny new Kinetta Archival Scanner, which I make. > > > > > > Jeff Kreines > > > Kinetta > > > > _______________________________________________ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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