interesting. avant garde,experimental,personal. I think ag filmmaking is personal filmmaking. films made for viewing by art, poetry and film lovers and/or people who are inquisitive and open to non traditional forms and/or subjects. films made by artists for the many reasons anyone makes art. that will endure. Owen
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Fred Camper <f...@fredcamper.com> wrote: > > Quoting Stashu Kybartas <skyb...@me.com>: > >> There is no avant-garde now. The internet insures that NOTHING will stay >> avant - EVER. > > I tried to make this point pre-Internet, in my 1986 article "The End of > Avant-Garde Film" in the 20th anniversary issue of "Millennium Film Journal." > By 1986, in my opinion, common usage was that an "experimental" or > "avant-garde" film was a film with certain features, such as scratching or > painting on film, a limited or abstracted narrative, non-linear editing, very > small cast and crew, and others -- some of these if not all of them. > Scratching on film was by then no longer "avant-garde," in the sense of new > or advanced, and the terms "experimental" and "avant-garde" has come to > denote a style of filmmaking. This is neither good nor bad, but one important > reason to understand it is that artists must realize that techniques already > used don't justify themselves; everything depends on the total work. > > Fred Camper > Chicago > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks _______________________________________________ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
