Dear Marilyn, Thanks so much for this! Really helpful. I'll keep you posted about progress with the article. I am going to emphasize to our author (as yet undecided) that Stan Brakhage and Jordan Belson should be focused on in the article as the connectionis so strong and so interesting. Frameworks has been so helpful, many thanks to all!
Bests, Aaron ________________________________ From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of marilyn brakhage Sent: 27 February 2014 11:16 To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Turner and Film Also, in print: In Stan Brakhage's book Telling Time: Essays of a Visionary Filmmaker (McPherson and Company, 2003), he writes about Turner in his essay "An Inner Argument," and also in the first section of the longer essay, "Space As Menace in Canadian Aesthetics: Film and Painting." (And there are probably more examples elsewhere.) Marilyn Brakhage On 27-Feb-14, at 2:26 AM, marilyn brakhage wrote: More evidence for Brakhage, if needed, on our book shelves at home; especially the two volume set, The Paintings of JMW Turner by Martin Butlin and Evelyn Joll, published in 1977 by the Tate Gallery and Yale University (for when he couldn't see the works directly). He often spoke publicly about Turner's importance to him. Also spoke of wanting to go to Petworth -- but never got there. Marilyn Brakhage On 27-Feb-14, at 12:55 AM, Chuck Kleinhans wrote: Moire evidence for Brakhage. About 15 years ago he had a show at the University of Oregon. Part of his lecture and presentation involved him talking about Turner and showing at least one slide to make his point (about light and sky, as I remember). At a meal afterwards the conversation returned to Turner and Stan was quite clear and detailed about which London museums had which Turners, which collection was better, etc. etc. Clearly it wasn't just a casual knowledge but one deeply thought about, knowledge gained in those galleries by directly encountering the art work. Which sort of summarizes what he himself stood for, I think: directly confronting and experiencing an artwork in all its full presence. Certainly the best pathway into any of his films. Chuck Kleinhans On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Fred Camper wrote: Not "less known" perhaps, but Brakhage is key here. He cites Turner as an influence in a list of influences, as someone mentioned, in my Criterion liner notes. It might be worth recounting how that list was composed. I asked him on the phone for his most important influences from writers, painters, and composers, and added, "You only get two of each." For painters he chose Turner and Pollock as the two most important. (He also added, on his own, an additional art, dance.) "The Text of Light" would be the most important film here. Not only did he look at Turner, but the variability of light in Turner is deeply inscribed in that film. He also spoke of "The Text of Light" in terms of landscape. This aspect of light was explored even more radically in the "Romans," "Arabics," and "Egyptians." The imagery in those films is far more removed from ideas of landscape. Fred Camper Chicago Quoting Aaron Juneau <aaron.jun...@tate.org.uk<mailto:aaron.jun...@tate.org.uk>>: Dear frameworks members, I'm contacting from Tate Etc. Magazine, London in the hope that somebody at Frameworks might be able to help me with some research I'm undertaking with regard to an article we're publishing in a couple issues time. Essentially the article will focus on J.M.W Turner's influence on film. I was wondering whether somebody at Frameworks could advise on some interesting, perhaps less known filmmakers who have been influenced by him? I'm really looking at hard fact and solid evidence as opposed to conjecture. Any assistance you can offer would be greatly appreciated. My very best, Aaron Juneau Editorial Assistant TATE ETC. magazine 20 John Islip Street Millbank London SW1P 4RG T: +44 (0)20 7821 8606 F: +44 (0)20 7887 3940 E: aaron.jun...@tate.org.uk<mailto:aaron.jun...@tate.org.uk> www.tate.org.uk/tateetc<http://www.tate.org.uk/tateetc> follow us on Twitter: @TATEETCmag _______________________________________________ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Chuck Kleinhans chuck...@northwestern.edu<mailto:chuck...@northwestern.edu> _______________________________________________ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks _______________________________________________ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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