Two directors worth looking into might be Ermanno Olmi (*Il Posto* for example), Gilles Groulx (*The cat in the bag*; *24 heures ou plus . . .*, though I haven't seen the latter).
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:23 AM, Chuck Kleinhans <chuck...@northwestern.edu>wrote: > Thanks Gene, couldn’t have said it better myself, at least not without > quoting Marx. > > As for WWBM: Jane relaxing in the bathtub? Jane and Stan kissing, > nuzzling? (of course from one point of view, that could be seen as labor, > work…sex for food, clothing, shelter…) but let’s just stick with women’s > unpaid domestic labor for now. > > Chuck > > > > > On May 13, 2014, at 4:22 PM, Gene Youngblood <ato...@comcast.net> wrote: > > I realize this is far too abstract for the goals of the original > request, but let us not forget that labor and leisure are never separate. > Not merely that one defines the other, but that under capitalism, leisure > is part of labor. It’s an essential aspect of it. > > *From:* Adam Hyman <a...@lafilmforum.org> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 13, 2014 5:00 PM > *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Films about labor and leisure--by women > > Absolutely, I was just wanting to not lose track of the original > request. For example, I don’t really recall any “leisure” in Window Water > Baby Moving, at least not as the original poster seemed to be looking for. > Sorry about the tone of my original post; I have no intent to be the list > police; just wanting to keep things useful for the question. But that’s > not my place either. > > Best regards, > > Adam > > > On 5/13/14 3:43 PM, "Chuck Kleinhans" <chuck...@northwestern.edu> wrote: > > Perhaps you haven’t seen these films and don’t realize they also depict > leisure. > > > On May 13, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Adam Hyman <a...@lafilmforum.org> wrote: > > The original request was :LABOR AND LEISURE TOGETHER." > Not just "labor" > > > On 5/13/14 8:17 AM, "Chuck Kleinhans" <chuck...@northwestern.edu> wrote: > > If we could think about domestic labor, there¹s a whole lot of other > films, > many by women, to consider: > > > Chantal Akerman, Jeanne Dielman 23 quai de > > Commerce > > Gunvor Nelson and Dorothy Wiley, SCHMEERGUNTZ > Carolee Schneeman, > > Kitch¹s Last Meal > > Lizzie Borden, Working Girls > Michelle Citron, Queer Fest > > (interactive media) > > Marjorie Keller, Misconception (and many other films by > > her) > > Joyce Weiland, Water Sark > Chick Strand, Fake Fruit > Laura Kipnis, Ecstasy > > Unlimited > > > > and all birth films, even those made by men like Water Window Baby > > Moving, contain representations of women¹s labor/women in labor > > > > and many > > many more films if we think about women¹s emotional labor in dealing with > the > family, or a man > > > Chuck Kleinhans > > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > Chuck Kleinhans > chuck...@northwestern.edu > > > > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >
_______________________________________________ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
