And I want to clarify that I do not want my opinions to be seen as an
attack on P Oliveros, to me her work stands as good as it always has been,
it is just that things like this speak tons about how the arts work today.

2014-10-16 10:44 GMT-04:00 Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com>:

> Now not kidding, Deep listening for Corporations seminars is another
> example of how, no matter how radical ideas can be, they can end up being
> recuperated by The System and we may end up working for The Man. But who am
> I to talk, I used to edit commercials for a living... Oh well.
>
> 2014-10-16 10:36 GMT-04:00 Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com>:
>
> and i was just kidding, mis-quoting apocalypse now.... ;)
>>
>> 2014-10-16 10:30 GMT-04:00 Al Matthews <prolep...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> > Well, you see, Marc, in this world of late capitalism, things get
>>> confused out there.
>>>
>>> I'm not arguing really, I just felt I should disagree.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, you see, Marc, in this world of late capitalism, things get
>>>> confused out there. Power, ideals, the old morality, and practical economic
>>>> necessity. But out there with these natives, it must be a temptation to be
>>>> God. Because there's a conflict in every human heart, between the rational
>>>> and irrational, between good and evil. And good does not always triumph.
>>>> Sometimes, the dark side overcomes what Lincoln called the better angels of
>>>> our nature.
>>>>
>>>> 2014-10-16 10:14 GMT-04:00 Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> ''Synchronize predatory algorithms!'
>>>>> ''For great justice, launch Zig fighters!''
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-10-16 4:22 GMT-04:00 Al Matthews <prolep...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, unironic. Techno-utopian.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile, the bullet or the bit, sir.
>>>>>> On Oct 15, 2014 11:07 PM, "Marc Couroux" <cour...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whoa! Amazing! And without the slightest bit of irony to boot!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The neo-avant-garde, otherwise known as the
>>>>>>> military-industrial-entertainment complex, has got your number.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Synchronize predatory algorithms!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Francisco Torres <
>>>>>>> fjtorre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ''Deep Listening fits in perfectly to the zeitgeist of corporate
>>>>>>>> wellness and mindfulness initiatives...''
>>>>>>>> Guess so. Oh well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2014-10-15 15:07 GMT-04:00 Michele Smith <bogduec...@hotmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You might try Western Front in Vancouver, Canada. They have hosted
>>>>>>>>> deep listening workshops in the past.
>>>>>>>>> http://front.bc.ca/new-music/
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Angela Holm <angelah...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Frameworkers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have a suggestion of where to show a short film (10
>>>>>>>>> mins) that is an experimental documentary about a Deep Listening 
>>>>>>>>> group, *Deep
>>>>>>>>> Listening Incorporated*, whose goal is to bring Pauline Oliveros'
>>>>>>>>> Deep Listening Practice into the corporate workplace?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Deep Listening fits in perfectly to the zeitgeist of corporate
>>>>>>>>> wellness and mindfulness initiatives and is a great way to bring a 
>>>>>>>>> higher
>>>>>>>>> consciousness to the 9 to 5 grind.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Festivals or venues that have a meditation or mindfulness focus,
>>>>>>>>> or an interest in Pauline Oliveros and experimental music?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The video is all created from recorded video conferencing meetings
>>>>>>>>> with Pauline and the group of 5 women who all work in the corporate 
>>>>>>>>> field
>>>>>>>>> (3 of which work at Google).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for any thoughts or ideas!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>>> Angie Holm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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