I think the distinction here is that while the facts themselves are not open
to copyright, the actual statement of them is. Therefore I can write a book
explaining that "2 + 2 = 4, that is if you take two apples and two oranges
and put them in a bushel, you have four pieces of fruit in the bushel" and
copyright it. If you were to use this passage from that book then you
infringe on my copyright, however if you simply state that 2 + 2 = 4 then
you do not.

Of course I understand that there are some branches of mathematics and
philosophy that might argue that 2 + 2 = 4 is not fact... but I digress.

(c) Matt McDonald
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Subject: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

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From: David Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Jun 18, 2006 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post
To: Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

While your mocking post is certainly intended to bolster your point, it
instead bolsters mine.  There are MANY books on mathematics that describe
only facts yet hold perfectly valid copyrights.

Please refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright .

On 6/18/06, Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> David Hoffman wrote:
> > Update:  their website now attributes copyright to both HouFUG AND
> Brett.
> > This is despite the fact that Brett seems to be the sole owner of the
> work.
> > I'm not sure why this community feels it can disregard rights to
> > intellectual property, especially when it produces so much on its OWN to
> be
> > proud of.  Why steal other people's stuff?
>
> howto add
>
> 1. two
> 2. plus two
> 3. equals four
>
> (c) David Hoffman
>
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