On Tuesday 05 December 2006 17:06, Josh Paetzel wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 December 2006 15:36, pete wright wrote:
> > On 12/5/06, Josh Paetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 05 December 2006 11:19, Nick Hibma wrote:
> > > > > 1)  SMP scalability.  4-way boxes are relatively common, and
> > > > > hardware with higher CPU counts is only going to get more and
> > > > > more common. I'm no industry expert, but 5 years from now
> > > > > will my clients be considering buying 32 and 64 way boxes? 
> > > > > Possibly. Will FreeBSD be in a positiion to compete favorably
> > > > > vs. the alternatives on such hardware?
> > > >
> > > > People have been working on this for years. It's a difficult
> > > > thing to get right. Sun has been spending a *LOT* of time doing
> > > > this for Solaris, and I bet that even Linux isn't there yet.
> > >
> > > Linux actually scales very well in this area.  My friends in the
> > > supercomputer business tell me that people are successfully using
> > > linux on 1024-way SSI boxes.  It doesn't scale quite as well as
> > > IRIX, but a lot of people opt for linux anyways.
> > >
> > > For instance, NASA Columbia, which is a cluster of 20 512-way SSI
> > > Altix's is successfully running linux, and comes in #8 on
> > > top500.org's supercomputer list.
> >
> > yea, i'm pretty familiar with those systems and i would have to say
> > that the Altix is indeed quite impressive.  but, i would not equate
> > the ability for SGI to implement a large SSI cluster like this to a
> > "normal" user being able to implement a similar setup with a stock
> > linus kernel or stock distro for that matter....
> >
> > -pete
> 
> What sort of 'normal' user has access to that kind of hardware?
> 
> Of course they aren't running a stock kernel or distro, but neither 
> are a lot of the guys using linux on real-time embedded hardware.  
> Google doesn't run a stock kernel or distro either, and Verio and 
> Yahoo don't run stock FreeBSD distributions or kernels either.

I would wager that Yahoo's FreeBSD kernel is a lot more stock than the Altix 
one for Linux though.  I think the poster's point is that you aren't going to 
get an OTS OS to run on a 512-way cluster, and that if one had time and 
hardware one could probably hack FreeBSD up a bunch to run on a 512-way 
system just as SGI hacked up Linux.

-- 
John Baldwin
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