>> FreeBSD should continue to innovate and not imitate. >> I was a Linux (Desktop and Server) user, now I am a FreeBSD user >> (Desktop and Server) and I could not be any happier. > > I'm a freebsd server user, tried it on the desktop but some applications > just didn't work. >
I experienced the same but instead of dropping FreeBSD and re-considered my application choices. For example Gnome to awesome window manager. Firefox to Opera. Of course, some people cannot afford to reconsider their application choices. Lucky for me, a lot of the applications that I use, are available and easy to install from the ports. >> I did not install FreeBSD because someone came and got in my face and >> advocated about it. I did it on my own. > > Obviously you had to have known about FreeBSD to do it on your own. > Well, I got tired of Linux and I thank Linux for being there when I got tired of Microsoft. I just prefer the *BSD way better than the Linux way of grouping software. Also, I actually found OpenBSD before I found FreeBSD. But FreeBSD had jails and the alternative to FreeBSD under OpenBSD was discontinued. And this is what I'm talking about when I say that FreeBSD should aim to develop new or implement technology like that. Mac is based on FreeBSD so what is there to take from Mac? Graphical applications? >> FreeBSD got me just by being FreeBSD and by offering what it offers. >> No marketing needed. > > I disagree to some extent, case in point is the jail functionality, > there are linux users who consider chroot to be the same thing, they > simply don't know the difference (worse.. there are packages out there > claiming to give it jail functionality but really it's just a chroot'ed > login, this is misleading) > Well, fighting ignorance is not that easy. I knew the differences and that's why I went with FreeBSD :). > Performance under heavy load is another thing linux users probably > aren't aware of. (I wasn't!) > Could you elaborate on this point? If you don't mind. I'm always in the hunt for opportunities to learn what others have experienced. > It's hard to find a hosting provider that'll do FreeBSD, this I assume > is because people aren't asking for it and people aren't asking for it > because they probably don't know about it (or why it's good for server > level stuff) > I'm with you on this one. It still puzzles me. Even though I'm not qualify yet to provide any theories :) > Clearly, some "marketing" is needed if we are to have choices in the > future about hosting. > > It's not linux users in particular though, a lot of people who *make the > decisions* don't even know what linux is, they just hear a lot of hype > about it and figure "everyone else is using linux, so it must be > better". > I agree with you. My boss understand nothing about Linux yet we are using it. Just to quote my boss. "I don't love Linux but I hate it more that Linux". I'm working in a master plan to bring FreeBSD to the light ;). Any tips would be welcome :). > I see this all the time with PHP and MySQL, when I suggest postgresql > for some applications, it's "brought to my attention" that postgresql > has "fallen behind" mysql by the business owners who make these > decisions. (and PHP... well.. thats way better.. because it won the > popularity contest) > > These are people who don't know what linux or UNIX or referential > integrity is. They don't see that just because it's "easier" to get > started with linux or mysql, it doesn't make them better tools, it > just makes them more popular tools among the masses. > > When 20 people say mysql and I say postgresql, in the eyes of someone > who really doesn't know.. they'll always choose mysql. > I have also been guilty of being influenced by the popular choice. >> So I would love it if FreeBSD continues to improve and involve without >> being influenced by Linux, Windows or Mac. > > I don't mind if freebsd takes the good things from linux and mac, It all depends (for me that is) on what should be taken from those camps. I still have not run into the "I wish FreeBSD had ..... like ........ has" > I just > hope the base system never requires an X server and a bazillion gnome > libraries... :-) > Count me on that. -r _______________________________________________ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"