At 11:51 PM -0600 2003/08/03, M. Warner Losh wrote:

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             "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 : On Thursday, 31 July 2003 at  9:30:31 +0200, Eirik Oeverby wrote:
 : >
 : > Oh and btw.. Get the *latest* firmware onto all your cards. That is
 : > essential for anything to work right at all..
 :
 : That sounds wrong to me.  If it worked before, and it doesn't now,
 : that's not the fault of the firmware.

 Quit harping on it, ok.  We know there's a bug and carping like this
 makes me less willing to find and fix it.

I'm confused. I agree that I have sometimes found Greg to be a bit annoying, but it seems to me that he's asking a perfectly legitimate question -- if things worked fine in the past (including the firmware versions at the time), and they don't work now, then why is a firmware update needed?


I would ask:

                What changed so that things broke, and why can't we go back
                to the way things worked before?


Please, this is a serious question. I'm not running 5.x yet on my in-house server/laptop, but I hope to soon (once I get some more servers in the house on which I can be more conservative), and a Lucent WaveLAN gold is definitely one of the things I plan on sticking in there to play with.


I really want this to work, and I don't understand how we got to the situation we're in today. Can you explain things to me, perhaps in a somewhat simpler fashion, so that I might understand, and maybe even help?

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