On Monday,  4 August 2003 at 11:37:44 +0200, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 11:51 PM -0600 2003/08/03, M. Warner Losh wrote:
>
>> In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>             "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> On Thursday, 31 July 2003 at  9:30:31 +0200, Eirik Oeverby wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh and btw.. Get the *latest* firmware onto all your cards. That is
>>>> essential for anything to work right at all..
>>>
>>> That sounds wrong to me.  If it worked before, and it doesn't now,
>>> that's not the fault of the firmware.
>>
>> Quit harping on it, ok.  We know there's a bug and carping like this
>> makes me less willing to find and fix it.
>
>       I'm confused.  I agree that I have sometimes found Greg to be a
> bit annoying, but it seems to me that he's asking a perfectly
> legitimate question -- if things worked fine in the past (including
> the firmware versions at the time), and they don't work now, then why
> is a firmware update needed?
>
>       I would ask:
>
>               What changed so that things broke, and why can't we go back
>               to the way things worked before?

I think you're misunderstanding Warner.  He's not disagreeing.  My
message wasn't directed at Warner, it was directed at Eirik.

Greg
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