On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 05:51:10PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >So let me know if you have any ideas for anything that would be > >considered more than just a slight improvement, that would make you go > >"OK, now it's seriously worth considering OpenRC as this is more than > >just a nominal improvement in functionality." > > actually i am happy with current system, but maybe others. > > My most important ideas are: > > - any new system should not be more complex
Just to point out what may seem to only be a symantic issue, but can be significant. There is a difference between being complex and being complicated. Complex refers to the ability to handle a good variety of needs in a diverse environment. Complexity can mean adding the ability to work with current and know requirements as well as new - even yet to be discover - needs and circumstances. Complicated can mean making things require more steps or locations and/or exceptions and levels of abstraction to do the tasks than would be imposed in a well designed system. A well designed process handles a very complex set of needs without adding unnecessary complications. So, if Mr Puchar, in his comment, changes complex for complicated, then I think we can all agree with the wish that it does not add complication. But, a sophisticated complexity might be needed to handle all of the complications and diversity in the process. ////jerry > - ability to keep all flags and main config in single file (/etc/rc.conf) > must persist. I don't want mess. And for sure not only me. > > - once again - the less files, the better. > > Some time ago i had to use linux (fortunately no longer needed). As i > don't use it normally i just took debian installer that i remembered it > WAS usable. > > After seeing the incredible complexity of /etc structure, not just rc > scripts, i deleted most of it and put startup sequence in single file. > > It was plain horror. > > >>If someone would like to make new ports subsystem from scratch then it > >>would > >>be great. Would you like to ? ;) > > > >I know you are joking, but in all seriousness, this is another area of > > yes i am. but that joke is clear suggestion that we have already tens of > thousands better or worse made ports! > > >it's a good idea to stay in touch :) > > if you have idea how to improve existing rc.d AND make ports working as is > then go on. > > Anyway i don't see rc.d subsystem to be such a big deal that great > improvement are possible at all. > > For me it is OK. > > For a cases when i need really quick start or so - i just deleted it and > put everything in /etc/rc > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"