On Mar 06, at 07:17 PM, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:19:14AM -0600, D J Hawkey Jr wrote: > > > > They should have left well enough alone, and advocated languages that > > were/are OOPL by concept as well as design. > > *sigh* IF you say that then you really aren't thinking at at all. > Why isn't Eiffel (one of those pure OOL's) used more? BECAUSE IT ISN'T > C. Got it? No one is willing to learn a new language. How much > bitching do we get because CVSup is written in Modula-3? It is a > type-safer language than C. It has some OO-like constructs and its > threading model and GUI lib allow JDP to quickly create a really nice > application. But all the benefits of Modula-3 are lost on the "I only do > C" crowd that is demanding CVSup be rewritten.
First, you're ascribing me to a group I don't belong. While I don't know Eiffel, or Lisp, or Modula, Snobol, etc., I don't demean them, nor do I bitch about such-and-such being written with them (well, not publicly, anyway). Many's the time I've wanted to modify a program written in a language I didn't/don't know, and learned enough of it to re-write it in a language I do know, just to do the changes I wanted. Second, you're not addressing my comments at all. I maintain that the creators of C++ should have either created yet another OOPL, or advocated any of the existing ones. Taking a procedural language, particularly one as accepted and popular as C, and wreaking havoc on it (IMHO) to produce another, was a gross mis-step. > Thus to repeat -- C++ was built on C SO IT WOULD BE ACCEPTED. By whom? C programmers? If you're even half-right, their logic was flawed - the general concensus that I'm aware of is that most C folk think little of C++. I won't address the opinions of PHBs who didn't get much further than flow-charts, or the C++ folk who hadn't experience with C when they learned C++, if either of those groups are the people you're writing of. > > I'll go away now. > > thank you. Snideness doesn't get you anything but. Dave Don't mess with me, I'm not a zealot. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
