Mike Meyer wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:10:22 +0200 "Adrian Penisoara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 While we're at it, I wish we could leverage the posibility for the
admin to manually start the service at the CLI, no matter whether the
service has been enabled or not -- that is the "<svc>_enable" keyword
should have effect only in the bootup/automatic contexts.
Like keywords - forcestart forcerestart forcestop ?!?!
Yes, I am always reminded of that :).
Well, to tell you the truth, I do not know of any other OS which
requires prefixing with "force" the start/stop actions in order to act
on the service at the command line, and personally I wish it weren't
the case.
Well I bet you can find this in most linux distros that copy FreeBSD. What
about gentoo?
Umm, I have used Gentoo and I do not remember having to use
"forcestart" at the command line...

Ok, given that you 1) want to have both "XXXX this service if it's
part of our normal runtime" and "XXXX this service even if it's not
part of our normal runtime" as script commands, and that 2) XXXX
without a prefix gets the "if it's part of our normal runtime"
meaning, as we want the user to have to explicitly say "Yes, I know
this looks odd, but I know what I'm doing so do it anyway" to get the
"even if it's not part of our normal runtime" behavior, then what
would you have us use instead of "forceXXXX"?

Personally, I think "start -f" or "start --force" might have been
better, but it's to late to fix such a minor thing.
I think the idea (behind not using force) is to implement something like in RH where there is a number of folders (for every run level) populated with links to the real rc scripts which are in /etc/init.d/ and when you type /etc/init.d/script start it will be started but the boot up rc.scripts will never do start on /etc/init.d/ itself only on the folder with links. It's not much better (or worse?) then the current system in freebsd, so I do not see why we should bother.

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Best Wishes,
Stefan Lambrev
ICQ# 24134177

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