On Tuesday, March 16, 2021, Marek Zarychta <zarych...@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl>
wrote:

> W dniu 16.03.2021 o 15:35, tue...@freebsd.org pisze:
> >> On 16. Mar 2021, at 15:18, Marek Zarychta <
> zarych...@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> wrote:
> >>
> >> W dniu 16.03.2021 o 12:50, tue...@freebsd.org pisze:
> >>>> On 16. Mar 2021, at 11:55, Blake Hartshorn <
> cont...@blakehartshorn.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Michael,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've attached tcpdumps for port 80 on both sides of a bad transfer,
> using 2 VMs in the same datacenter, FreeBSD 13 serving and 12 as a client.
> A friend of mine suggested I also run some tests with iperf3, so pasting
> those results below. You'll see it going fast in one direction and crawling
> in the other on TCP. There's also some disparity on UDP.
> >>> The problem is that the server provides TCP segments larger than the
> MTU
> >>> to the NIC. These are dropped and needs to be retransmitted. That is
> why
> >>> it takes so long. So I guess TSO is enabled on the NIC and not working
> correctly.
> >>>
> >>> What is the output of ifconfig? Can you disable TSO? Does that work
> around
> >>> the problem?
> >>>
> >>> Best regards
> >>> Michael
> >>>>
> >>>> TCP:
> >>>> [ ID][Role] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr  Cwnd
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   0.00-1.00   sec  27.7 MBytes   233 Mbits/sec  342
>  26.7 KBytes
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   0.00-1.00   sec  4.18 KBytes  34.3 Kbits/sec
>
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   1.00-2.00   sec  15.8 MBytes   132 Mbits/sec  249
>  52.0 KBytes
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   1.00-2.00   sec  4.18 KBytes  34.3 Kbits/sec
>
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   2.00-3.00   sec  13.7 MBytes   115 Mbits/sec  307
>  15.4 KBytes
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   2.00-3.00   sec  4.18 KBytes  34.3 Kbits/sec
>
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   3.00-4.00   sec  14.5 MBytes   121 Mbits/sec  260
>  22.4 KBytes
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   3.00-4.00   sec  4.18 KBytes  34.3 Kbits/sec
>
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   4.00-5.00   sec  14.3 MBytes   120 Mbits/sec  240
>  37.9 KBytes
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   4.00-5.00   sec  5.58 KBytes  45.7 Kbits/sec
>
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   5.00-6.00   sec  17.7 MBytes   149 Mbits/sec  363
>  15.4 KBytes
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   5.00-6.00   sec  4.18 KBytes  34.3 Kbits/sec
>
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   6.00-7.00   sec  14.8 MBytes   124 Mbits/sec  287
>  8.38 KBytes
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   6.00-7.00   sec  5.58 KBytes  45.7 Kbits/sec
>
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   7.00-8.00   sec  14.7 MBytes   123 Mbits/sec  293
>  28.1 KBytes
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   7.00-8.00   sec  4.18 KBytes  34.3 Kbits/sec
>
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   8.00-9.00   sec  11.9 MBytes   100 Mbits/sec  325
>  18.3 KBytes
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   8.00-9.00   sec  4.18 KBytes  34.3 Kbits/sec
>
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   9.00-10.00  sec  14.3 MBytes   120 Mbits/sec  315
>  39.3 KBytes
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   9.00-10.00  sec  4.18 KBytes  34.3 Kbits/sec
>
> >>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >>>> [ ID][Role] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   0.00-10.00  sec   159 MBytes   134 Mbits/sec  2981
>        sender
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   0.00-10.00  sec   159 MBytes   134 Mbits/sec
>       receiver
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   0.00-10.00  sec  77.0 KBytes  63.1 Kbits/sec   65
>        sender
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   0.00-10.00  sec  44.6 KBytes  36.6 Kbits/sec
>       receiver
> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> UDP:
> >>>> [ ID][Role] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Jitter
> Lost/Total Datagrams
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   0.00-1.00   sec  81.6 MBytes   685 Mbits/sec
> 67798
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   0.00-1.00   sec  8.80 MBytes  73.8 Mbits/sec  0.255 ms
> 54070/60475 (89%)
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   1.00-2.00   sec  72.7 MBytes   610 Mbits/sec
> 64802
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   1.00-2.00   sec  8.52 MBytes  71.5 Mbits/sec  0.154 ms
> 68912/75116 (92%)
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   2.00-3.00   sec  73.7 MBytes   618 Mbits/sec
> 64158
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   2.00-3.00   sec  8.52 MBytes  71.5 Mbits/sec  0.276 ms
> 67738/73945 (92%)
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   3.00-4.00   sec  76.6 MBytes   643 Mbits/sec
> 63521
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   3.00-4.00   sec  8.55 MBytes  71.8 Mbits/sec  0.160 ms
> 68647/74874 (92%)
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   4.00-5.00   sec  76.1 MBytes   638 Mbits/sec
> 64614
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   4.00-5.00   sec  8.55 MBytes  71.7 Mbits/sec  0.461 ms
> 67542/73767 (92%)
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   5.00-6.00   sec  75.9 MBytes   637 Mbits/sec
> 64834
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   5.00-6.00   sec  8.57 MBytes  71.9 Mbits/sec  0.297 ms
> 71565/77806 (92%)
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   6.00-7.00   sec  73.0 MBytes   613 Mbits/sec
> 63639
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   6.00-7.00   sec  8.40 MBytes  70.5 Mbits/sec  0.199 ms
> 69545/75663 (92%)
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   7.00-8.00   sec  74.6 MBytes   626 Mbits/sec
> 65030
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   7.00-8.00   sec  8.78 MBytes  73.6 Mbits/sec  0.254 ms
> 67173/73566 (91%)
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   8.00-9.00   sec  75.0 MBytes   629 Mbits/sec
> 64848
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   8.00-9.00   sec  8.77 MBytes  73.5 Mbits/sec  0.298 ms
> 70932/77315 (92%)
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   9.00-10.00  sec  74.5 MBytes   625 Mbits/sec
> 64487
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   9.00-10.00  sec  8.71 MBytes  73.1 Mbits/sec  0.185 ms
> 68268/74612 (91%)
> >>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >>>> [ ID][Role] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Jitter
> Lost/Total Datagrams
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   0.00-10.00  sec   754 MBytes   632 Mbits/sec  0.000 ms
> 0/647731 (0%)  sender
> >>>> [  5][TX-C]   0.00-10.12  sec   105 MBytes  87.2 Mbits/sec  0.245 ms
> 571090/647649 (88%)  receiver
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   0.00-10.00  sec  1009 MBytes   846 Mbits/sec  0.000 ms
> 0/761013 (0%)  sender
> >>>> [  7][RX-C]   0.00-10.12  sec  86.2 MBytes  71.4 Mbits/sec  0.185 ms
> 674392/737139 (91%)  receiver
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >> Taking a look at this iperf output I recalled that 80% of my setups
> >> suffered from similar issue after transitioning from 1{1,2}-STABLE to
> >> 13-STABLE about a mounth ago. I have asked on IRC but nobody confirmed
> >> similar problems so I have reduced MTU to 8900 from the original 9000 on
> >> some vlan(4) interfaces to solve the issue. I am using mostly vlan(4)s
> >> over LACP lagg(4)s created on NICs. So far (for FreeBSD 11 and 12)
> >> setting MTU 9000 on physical NIC was sufficient to make it work, now I
> >> have set MTU 9000 on NICs and reduced MTU 8900 on vlan(4)s.
> > TCP announces an MSS of 1440, which corresponds to an MTU of 1500 byte.
> > So I guess your problem is different.
> > Is your physical MTU 9000 bytes?
> >
> > Best regards
> > Michael
>
> Yes, MTU for some VLANs in this network is 9000 bytes and I performed
> only software upgrades, hardware was untouched. I haven't had similar
> issues while running 11.4-STABLE or 12.2-STABLE. The aforementioned 8900
> is not a critical value, but the reduction from an original 9000 was
> mandatory.
>
> With kind regards,
> Marek
>
>
I also experienced that same issue with 13.0-RC2 after upgrading some VMs.
The same issue also exists in Beta4. It only affects IPv6. For me it is
extremely slow in both directions if both VMs are on the same host and are
running 13.0-RC2.

It is easy to reproduce. Simply setup two VMs using virt-manager or proxmox
running FreeBSD 13.0-RC2.

Configure the network to use virtio and setup IPv6. Run iperf using IPv6
and we are down to modem speeds. :-(

If you test using ipv4 no issues at all. To only way to get better speeds
is to disable tso6.

ifconfig vtnet0 -tso6

The host-host speeds after that are still not as good as IPv4 but at least
it’s in multiple Gbps vs just some Kbps. FreeBSD 12.2 has none of those
issues.

Could it have something to do with the if_vtnet changes on 2021-01-19
committed by Bryan Venteicher https://reviews.freebsd.org/D27904
<ttps://reviews.freebsd.org/D27904>

https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/sys/dev/virtio/network?h=releng/13.0

Haven’t had time to compile a kernel before those changes or right after to
see if the issue goes away.

I only tested the ipv6 slowness on virtio. Don’t know if the issue exists
on bare metal hardware as well.

Thanks,

Michael Tratz




> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 4:16:15 AM EDT tue...@freebsd.org wrote:
> >>>>>> On 15. Mar 2021, at 12:56, Blake Hartshorn <
> cont...@blakehartshorn.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The short version, when I use FreeBSD 13, delivering data can take
> 5 minutes for 1MB over SSH or HTTP when using IPv6. This problem does not
> happen with IPv4. I installed FreeBSD 12 and Linux on that same device,
> neither had the problem.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Did some troubleshooting with Linode, have ultimately ruled the
> network itself out at this point. When the server is on FreeBSD 13, it can
> download quickly over IPv6, but not deliver. Started investigating after
> noticing my SSH session was lagging when cat'ing large files or running
> builds. This problem even occurs between VMs in the same datacenter. I
> generated a 1MB file of base64 garbage served by nginx for testing. IPv6 is
> being configured by SLAAC and on both 12 and 13 installs was setup by the
> installer. Linode uses Linux/KVM hosts for their virtual machines so it's
> running on that virtual adapter.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I asked on the forums, another user recommended going to the
> mailing lists instead. Does anyone know if config settings need to be
> different on 13? Did I maybe just find a real issue? I can provide any
> requested details. Thanks!
> >>>>> Could you prove a .pcap tracefile, one from the sender, one from the
> recevier, of
> >>>>> a TCP/IPv6 connection, which doesn't work as expected. For example,
> use your 1MB
> >>>>> base64 garbage transfer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regardes
> >>>>> Michael
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>> <freebsd12-client.pcap.gz><freebsd13-server.pcap.gz>
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> >>
> >> --
> >> Marek Zarychta
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Marek Zarychta
>
>
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