Hi,

well, after tweaking several things and trying several suggestions, things 
remain the same.  There is an interesting thing occurring is that the steady 
throughput that I'm experiencing is rock solid.  There are no longer any 
serious deviations on throughput.   It's constant at 6.5-9.0 MB/sec (this 
sucks).  However, that's at the write and delete speed.  There's very little 
difference.  The NetAPP drops dramatically on a random delete.

So, someone suggested going with an em  (aka Intel card).  I'd really like to 
try that but the machine is off in a data center but I might just take one of 
my re based cards if I can't get the corporation to buy one and ship it down 
there. (I'm just of the opinion that if I could go polling the bce might not 
show the occasional input error.  netstat -w 5 -I bce0 )

The last thing that has been suggested is to go with the Intel card, use 
polling, and enable "options ZERO_COPY_SOCKETS" in the kernel.  That's for 
Monday. (Thank you, James Chang)  As for the reasons many people didn't see the 
suggestions, a lot of people went off the thread and mailed directly.  Please 
don't.  It makes it real hard for the thread have integrity. (Heck, many of you 
are interested in the results. :-) )

P.




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From: Paul Patterson <pathia...@yahoo.com>
To: Paul Patterson <pathia...@yahoo.com>; freebsd-performance@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:59:54 PM
Subject: Re: ZFS, NFS and Network tuning

Hi,

Well, I got some input on things:

kern.ipc.somaxconn=32768
net.inet.tcp.mssdflt=1460

And for fstab

rw,tcp,intr,noatime,nfsv3,-w=65536,-r=65536

I tried turning on polling with ifconfig bce0 polling, however, I didn't see it 
in ifconfig bce0 so I don't believe it to be active or the card doesn't support 
it.

aI also removed async from the mounts.  These had a detrimental affect on the 
FreeBSD server.  I now get 64K per transfer (system -vm) but I'm still only 
getting about 4MB/sec on the disks and their utilization has dropped to about 
5%.  Throughput from both clients is ~8.5MB/sec.  The tests were run 
separately.  The NetAPP on each host was over 48.5 MB/sec.

The FreeBSD host still has about 2 GB free.

Paul




________________________________
From: Paul Patterson <pathia...@yahoo.com>
To: Paul Patterson <pathia...@yahoo.com>; freebsd-performance@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:03:14 PM
Subject: Re: ZFS, NFS and Network tuning

Hello all, 

I guess I've got to send this as I've already had about 5 responses claiming 
the same thing.  This is not a disk bottleneck.  The ZFS partition is capable 
of performing at the theoretical max of the drives.  The machine is performing 
at less than 5 MB combined.  I'm assuming that this is a problem with the NFSv3 
throughput.  I just 'dd'  1000 1MB records (about 1GB) from the clients to 
their respective servers:

Client 1 to NetAPP:  3 tests for 45.9, 45.1, 46.1   Pretty consistent
Client 2 to FreeBSD/ZFS:  3 test for 29.7, 12.5, 19.1  NOT consistent  (also, 
the drives were lucky to hit 12% busy.

I'm about to mount these servers to each client and see if there's a variation 
(although they are hw configured the same and bought the same time.)

I'll write after this.  However, if more people could review the configurations 
below and see if there's anything glaring....  However, the lack of consistency 
shows something is wrong network wise.

P.




________________________________
From: Paul Patterson <pathia...@yahoo.com>
To: Paul Patterson <pathia...@yahoo.com>; freebsd-performance@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:47:59 AM
Subject: Re: ZFS, NFS and Network tuning


Hi,

as promised, the parameter tuning I have on the box (does anyone see anything 
wrong?)

/boot/loader.conf

kern.hz="100"
vm.kmem_size_max="1536M"
vm.kmem_size="1536M"
vfs.zfs.prefetch_disble=1

/etc/sysctl.conf

kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=16777216
kern.ipc.nmbclusters=32768
kern.ipc.somaxconn=8192
kern.maxfiles=65536
kern.maxfilesperproc=32768
kern.mxvnodes=600000
net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0
net.inet.tcp.inflight.enable=0
net.inet.tcp.path_mtu_discovery=0
net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_auto=1
net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_inc=16384
net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max=16777216
net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536
net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1
net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_auto=1
net.inet.tcpsendbuf_inc=8192
net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536
net.inet.udp.maxdgram=57344
net.inet.udp.recvspace=65536
net.local.stream.recvspace=65536
net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max=16777216





________________________________
From: Paul Patterson <pathia...@yahoo.com>
To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:04:37 PM
Subject: ZFS, NFS and Network tuning

Hi,

I just set up my first machine with ZFS.  (First, ZFS is nothing short of 
amazing)  I'm running FreeBSD 7.1-RC1 as an NFS server with ZFS striped across 
two volumes (just testing throughput for now.)  Anyhow, I was benching this 
box, 4GB or RAM, the volume is on 2x146 GB SAS 10K rpm drives and it's an HP 
Proliant DL360 with dual Gb interfaces. (device bce)

Now, I believe that I have tuned this box to the hilt with all the parameters 
that I can think of (it's at work right now so I'll cut and paste all the 
sysctls and loader.conf parameters for ZFS and networking) and it still seems 
to have some type of bottleneck.

I have two Debian Linux clients that I use to bench with.  I run a script that 
makes calls that writes to the NFS device and, after about 30 minutes, starts 
to delete the initial data and follow behind writing and deleting.

Here's what's happening:  The "other" machine is a NetAPP.  It's got 1GB of RAM 
and it's running RAID DP with 2 parity drives and 6 data drives, all SATA 750 
GB 7200 RPM drives with dual Gb interfaces.  

The benchmark script manages to write lots of little (all less than 30KB) files 
at a rate of 11,000 per minute, however, after 30 minutes, when it starts 
deleting, the throughput on write goes to 9500 and deletion is 6000 per minute. 
 If I turn on the second node, I get 17,000 writing combined with about 11,000 
deletions combined.  One way or another, this will overflow in time.  Not good.

Now, on to my pet project. :-)  The FreeBSD/ZFS server is only able to maintain 
about 3500 writes per minute but also deletes at the same rate!  (I would 
expect deletion to be at least as fast as writing)  The drives are running at 
only 20-35% while this is going on and only putting down about 4-5 MB/sec each. 
 So, at 1Gb or ~92MB/sec theoretical max (is that about right?) There's 
something wrong somewhere.  I'm assuming it's the network.  (I'll post all the 
tunings tomorrow.)

Thinking something wrong, I mounted only one client to each server (they are 
identical clients and the same configuration as the FreeBSD box).  I did a 
simple stream of:  dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/nfs bs=1m count=1000.  The FreeBSD 
box wins?!  It cranked up the drives to 45-50 MB/sec each and balanced them 
perfectly on transactions/sec KB/sec, etc from systat -vm. (Woohoo!)  The 
NetAPPs CPU was at over 35-40% constantly, (it does that while benching, too)

I'll post the NetAPP finding tomorrow as I forgot it for now.

As for the client mounting, it was with the options:  
nfsvers=3,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,hard,intr,async,noatime

I'm trying to figure out why, when running this benchmark, can the NetAPP with 
WAFL nearly triple the FreeBSD/ZFS box.  

Also, I'm having something strange happen when I try to mount the disk from the 
FreeBSD server versus the NetAPP.  The FreeBSD server will sometimes RPC 
timeout.  Mounting the NetAPP is instantaneous.

That's the beginning.  If I have a list of things to check tomorrow, I will.  
I'd like to see the little machine that could kick the NetAPPs butt.  (No 
offense to NetAPP. :-) )

Thank you for reading,

Paul


      
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