Ade Lovett wrote:

On Dec 13, 2007, at 02:32 , David Southwell wrote:
I suspect antagonistic responsesfrom some people are more about wounded pride (i.e - astonishment why should anyone propose to improve on the procedures,
systems and engineering to which they contributed in the past!)

You suspect wrong. Sorry. Indeed, I already said as much about the current system, and it's scalability.

Sp please either make contributions that are intended to help the current
process rather than boring everyone with negativity

Since this is a WIP, how about taking it to a specific mailing list that is not related to how things currently operate. I read ports@ for one reason, and one reason only, to keep abreast of potential issues with the *current* system.

It's not hard to set up a mailing list. Hell, I'll even host it myself if that's what it takes, but as things stand, ports@ (or, indeed, any other exising mailing list) is not the right place to be discussing concepts that are, fluid.

Why cannot ports@ be a broad commons? It is not as if David and Aryeh are posting oodles of spam! Definitely their postings are totally pertinent to "Porting software to FreeBSD" (http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo).

And what is all this talk of them polluting the list? Far more noise has been generated complaining about them.

I understand that you might have a private definition of ports@ that it should only discuss the current system. But if this is all you come to this group for, just press the delete key when it is not something you are personally interested in.

Now if someone starts talking about their vacation plans, or even FreeBSD kernel issues, then by all means complain about list pollution - I'll join with you!

Stephen
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