Steven Kreuzer wrote:
On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:06 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Gary Jennejohn <gary.jennej...@freenet.de> wrote:
Luigi Rizzo <ri...@iet.unipi.it> wrote:
... Cynthia Flynn wrote:
[snip - syslinux pulls in too much X11 stuff]
I think the extra dependencies that you find listed for syslinux:
[snip]
come directly from mtools ...

Yeah.  It looks like mtools uses X11 by default, which IMHO is
incorrect.  Instead it should have an option to turn X11 _on_,
rather than one for turning it _off_, as it currently does.

IMO it is a POLA violation for mtools to depend on X11 *at all*.

Instead of having an option, maybe the port should be split so that
mtools itself just provides the code to access FAT filesystems, and
(say) mtools-gui does the fancy display stuff.

mtools already supports WITHOUT_X11 so if you don't want the GUI stuff, you can build the port without it. Personally, I think it makes more sense for mtools to be the full and complete representation
of the actual program.

Can someone confirm for me that a normal port install of mtools brings up a configuration menu in which the WITHOUT_X11 option can be set? I do not remember seeing any such thing, but it has probably been 6 months since I last tried it.

I would never have guessed mtools was a GUI application. I've only ever heard of and seen mtools being used as a command line tool set and therefore had the expectation that its port would be available to FreeBSD server operators in a fashion that makes sense for non-GUI users. Perhaps I am not as typical a user as I thought, and you folks certainly aren't obligated to address the requirements of niche users, but if the setting of WITHOUT_X11 is not clearly presented for setting during a normal port install then I would humbly suggest that for all practical purposes it doesn't exist for most users.

Cynthia

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