On Mar 20, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Cynthia Flynn wrote:
Steven Kreuzer wrote:
On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:06 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Gary Jennejohn <gary.jennej...@freenet.de> wrote:
Luigi Rizzo <ri...@iet.unipi.it> wrote:
... Cynthia Flynn wrote:
[snip - syslinux pulls in too much X11 stuff]
I think the extra dependencies that you find listed for syslinux:
[snip]
come directly from mtools ...
Yeah. It looks like mtools uses X11 by default, which IMHO is
incorrect. Instead it should have an option to turn X11 _on_,
rather than one for turning it _off_, as it currently does.
IMO it is a POLA violation for mtools to depend on X11 *at all*.
Instead of having an option, maybe the port should be split so that
mtools itself just provides the code to access FAT filesystems, and
(say) mtools-gui does the fancy display stuff.
mtools already supports WITHOUT_X11 so if you don't want the GUI
stuff, you can build the port
without it. Personally, I think it makes more sense for mtools to
be the full and complete representation
of the actual program.
Can someone confirm for me that a normal port install of mtools
brings up a configuration menu in which the WITHOUT_X11 option can
be set? I do not remember seeing any such thing, but it has probably
been 6 months since I last tried it.
when you do a make install for the mtools port, it does not prompt you
if you would like to build the port without X11. This can be enabled
by passing
-DWITHOUT_X11 to make, or adding WITHOUT_X11=yes to make.conf to apply
it to all ports that you build on that system
Perhaps I am not as typical a user as I thought, and you folks
certainly aren't obligated to address the requirements of niche
users, but if the setting of WITHOUT_X11 is not clearly presented
for setting during a normal port install then I would humbly suggest
that for all practical purposes it doesn't exist for most users.
Can we consider people who use the CLI an advanced user? If so, the
expectation that they will be able to build a port with -DWITHOUT_X11
is not unreasonable.
People who are more likely to use the GUI are the ones who will not be
aware of the WITHOUT_X11 knob.
--
Steven Kreuzer
http://www.exit2shell.com/~skreuzer
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