>>>> i think this whole thing is worth a few days to settle in our heads. >>>> essentially, if we believe that freebsd is used extensively in >>>> headless server deployments, we should make that easy and smooth. >>> But even a headless server can run X clients with the display being on >>> some other (presumably non-headless) machine. That is on of the >>> beauties of the X Windowing System. >> >> [ thanks, but i am overly-familiar with the beauties and the some of the >> warts of x. ] >> >> someone installing a server may or may not want the x client version of >> a package as opposed to readline or curses. but, imiho, it would be >> good to make such decisions centralized, somewhat strong, and pretty >> clear. >> >>> The only part that would make no sense to install on a headless >>> machine is the X server itself >> >> and the support for it and the toys it occasionally seems to drag in. >> >> i really do not want the x client versions of emacs, cvsup, ... >> actually, i can not think of any ports i run on headless machines that i >> want spawning windows on my glass. ymmv, of course. >> >> i think that i would like to be able to say headless install and have to >> ack any port which wants to drag in x. > > First of all, try figuring out which ports got you into the X11 mess. On > my server I got: > > % pkg_info -R libX11-1.2.1,1 > Information for libX11-1.2.1,1:
my point was specifically that, if we believe that freebsd is used by a major server population, that having to know/do this kind of cruft is ill-advised. randy _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"