Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting Oliver Fromme <o...@lurza.secnetix.de> (from Fri, 2 Sep 2011 > 11:24:16 +0200 (CEST)): > > > The other extreme are people who run a cron job every night > > that updates /usr/ports (*) and runs "400.status-pkg" (from > > /etc/periodic/weekly), possibly even followed by an automated > > update (**). Of course this will sometimes break. That's > > normal and to be expected, because the ports collection is > > changed and modified constantly by many people, except during > > freeze. There is always something that's broken. If you're > > affected, you need to postpone the update of the respective > > ports until someone (possibly including yourself) unbreaks it. > > That's the price to pay when you want to be on the "bleeding > > edge" instead of waiting for the next freeze and updating the > > ports to the release tag only. > > No,
Yes, it is. :-) > that's the price to pay if you do not use all available tools. > Personally I make a FS snapshot before updating. We should recomment > to do this in all sensible places, and maybe even add code to > portmaster/portupgrade which tells to make a snapshot if there is none > (where possible). This way a rollback to a known good state is > possible if someone gets hit by an instability (someone still can get > hit, but the impact is a lot lower). Yes, I know that ZFS (the FS > where it is very easy to snapshot and rollback) is not used > everywhere, but the new installer for 9.0 offers now the possibility > and we should tell the people what is possible now. I wrote that the price to pay is that you have to postpone the update of respective ports. And this is true, no matter if you use snapshots or not (or something else). Having to roll back to a working system is a problem that I didn't talk about at all. Snapshots can be used for this, of course. Personally I cannot use snapshots, but I keep packages of all working ports (created with "make package" or "pkg_create -b"), so I can easily roll back if necessary. However, that happens very rarely because I watch the mailing lists carefully before updates, so I notice in advance if there is any major breakage. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "A language that doesn't have everything is actually easier to program in than some that do." -- Dennis M. Ritchie _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"