On 5/28/2013 01:48, RW wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2013 01:13:43 +0200
No. That's not what those words mean.
Please stop assuming that somebody builds Vim repeatedly and start
assuming it's built for the very first time.
Why wouldn't I? Are you seriously suggesting that it's the norm to build
a port once and then never build it again?
1. Yes, that can happen. I'm working on some servers with 1600 days
uptime (should be 2300 days but the data center relocated them a few
years ago) and most of the software on them is from 2007.
2. Every software built from source is built "the first time" on each
server.
3. It is nice to cater to new users.
4. It's good practice to target the lowest common denominator
They add up to 3 MB which is noticeable to someone on dialup even
when compressed. Ordinarily, it wouldn't matter, but as I said before
VIM is something that could be part of a very minimal build - something
that might be maintained even over very slow dial-up.
If you are going to use dialup as an example, then it's much, much worse
to download them all individually. Unless you're building vim
repeatedly and often, the opportunity for double-downloads isn't that
high. If it's a real worry then the 100-patch rollups would be better
than the full aggregates.
Some people may find ftp faster or more reliable - it depends on your
circumstances.
That's not my experience but for the sake of argument I'll accept the
point. It still seems like overkill though.
It validated my story as more than anecdotal.
No it didn't because I already told you that there unreliable servers
then.
That doesn't invalidate what I said. You can't assume everyone
portsnaps daily. A commit in January might not trickle down for months.
All you can say is, "yes, that was the case but a PR was written
against it and since closed, please try again with a current port tree".
Plus I think you said it after I told the story.
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