On Mon, 12 Jan 2015 11:57:26 -0700 (MST) Warren Block <wbl...@wonkity.com> wrote
> On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Chris H wrote: > > > Here is where we will clash; I've been riding *BSD for over 20yrs. > > It's *biggest* asset has been in it's flexibility -- it wasn't another > > Linux "dist", that required me to essentially become a "clone" of > > every other Linux install. The Ports system, and /src allowed one to > > tailor my build/install to meet *my* needs. I wasn't required, in fact > > I was *encouraged*, to have a unique system. Frankly the new pkg(8) > > *requirement* was a complete 180 on this philosophy. > > Huh? It is the same as the old package system, required if you want to > use ports or packages. The difference is that pkg is not in base, so it > can be easily upgraded without doing an OS upgrade. Ports continue to > work as they did with the old package system, only package operations > are faster and more reliable. Sure, it's intended to *feel* like pkg_, but the (way) it's implemented bears little resemblance to pkg_, and it's implementation also *abruptly* pulled the rug out from under many years of development work, carefully crafted work by development shops to keep their stream flowing smoothly and more efficiently. [I'm kicking a dead horse here] > > My main complaint with pkg is the persistent misunderstanding that > binary packages are a direct replacement for ports. > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/pkg.html I'd be inclined to agree here. > > As for the original topic, BIND in base had the same upgrade problems as > the old package system. The port overwriting the base was a convenient > but nasty hack. Not even that convenient, because all that changes with > the port is the config files are in /usr/local/etc rather than /etc. A > chroot adds little security or isolation, and if you want that it should > be in a jail or other type of VM anyway. > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails-ezjail.html# Speaking of kicking "dead horses"; I'm still amazed that this topic still continues. I remember the initial discussion on this about 9mos ago, and thought; OK. That seems to make sense. I'd better see if I can cobble up something that mimic's the old setup, so I can keep things going, until I find a suitable replacement for the BIND. Took me less than 2hrs. Point being; there was a fair amount of time before the BIND got yanked (unlike the pkg change). So I'm amazed so many people are, well, amazed. --Chris --- _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"