On Thu, 8 Dec 2016, Matt Smith wrote:
On Dec 08 05:16, Daniil Berendeev wrote:
Although portmaster is not releated to the FreeBSD project and is an
outside tool, there aren't any alternatives from the project itself. So
use it or die. Not a nice situation.
People have been trying to get portmaster deprecated and removed from the
handbook but have met with resistance.
Well, yes. Because it works, has no dependencies, and there is no
equivalent replacement. Except maybe portupgrade, which has legacy
problems like poor default options.
Every single week, somebody falsely accuses the ports tree of being
broken but the accuser is the only one with the problem. What do they
all have in common? They are portmaster users. I'll iterate, saying
"portmaster works" means applying a very generous definition of "works".
The recommended replacements are ports-mgmt/synth and ports-mgmt/poudriere.
These build an entire package repository that the pkg tool can use but they
do so in clean chrooted environments, and rebuild everything that's required
to keep a consistent ABI. Synth is more designed for a single live system
like a desktop or a single server, whereas poudriere is what the freebsd
package build clusters use and is more designed for that type of usage. Worth
taking a look.
These are package builders. Technically preferable, given adequate disk
space and memory, but not equivalent to portmaster.
It's like saying git and svn are not equivalent to cvs.
It's a shame the handbook hasn't been updated to give this information.
Which information, in particular? A section on Poudriere was submitted,
and I spent a fair amount of time editing it and getting it in there.
As far as Synth or other information, I'm not aware of any pending
Handbook or other documentation submissions.
for starters:
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=214679
Previous PRs indicated that recommendations for portmaster and
portupgrade were to be removed, but so far this PR has stalled.
John
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