On 2020-01-01 16:23, Franco Fichtner wrote:
> Hi Adam,
> 
>> On 1. Jan 2020, at 10:18 PM, Adam Weinberger <ad...@adamw.org> wrote:
>> [...]
>> This is why we practically beg people to use poudriere.
> 
> Let me stop you right here and say: ports Framework itself is
> suffering from this wishful attitude

PLUS UMPTEEN*!!!

> and this has nothing to do
> with readily available poudriere "replacements" which are not
> as good as poudriere for sure.

Assuming you can get poudriere to work.  Even by today's standards,
a low-cost PC is not going to have the juice to support it.  And to
reiterate, the ports framework itself MUST work standalone.

> If the ports framework isn't seen as a stand alone infrastructure
> worth its own integrity the discussion is already dead and the
> quality will keep to decline for every casual FreeBSD user who
> doesn't really care for this or that tool, but wants to install
> software from the ports tree manually.
> [...]
-- George

* umpteen: an unspecified large number

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