-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 9:56 PM
To: Born, Clinton; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
Cc: FreeBSD Questions
Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Born, Clinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Born, Clinton"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
A predilection to evangelize tools that supports ones own belief in
software superiority is what curtails our ability to move any
platform
forward. I would keep a hesitant eye on any individual that holds
such
fervent beliefs.
Do you keep a hesitant eye on Microsoft, then? Since they are one of
the
biggest evangelizers of their own tools there is...
I have old NT servers that have run Disney.com
Apparently, not.
for
several years and have served us well. Technology is an enabler,
not a
divider. Too many people unknowingly adopt the later.
This is just a load of dingos kidneys. Your no better than anyone
else
you
are just spewing to sound superior.
The "best tool for the job" why that is a loaded statement if there
ever
was
one.
There are precious few jobs
out there that I can think of that there are not multiple, different
tools
for that
many people use with equal success. In fact the only one that
comes to
mind
is pulling the tilt steering wheel on a 80's-90's GM vehicle, since it
uses
a
special tool that only SnapOn ever manufactured.
One person's "best tool" is another person's junk tool. This is a
subjective
judgement if there ever was one. And there is really nothing wrong
with
it.
Sorry if it offends your politically correct credentials (good example
of
why
disney's quality has gone down the toilet in the last 20 years) but it
does
not
harm anyone's ability to move any platform forward to have a bunch of
vocal
detractors out there. Everyone loves their platform of choice and
it is
perfectly
OK for them to be as vocal as they like, and nobody is harmed for that
happening.
The people who are willing to be open minded will use a mix of tools
from
Microsoft and the rest of the world, and the people who are closed
minded
will use tools from Microsoft, and neither is going to pay any
attention
to
whatever
loudmouths are bandmouthing their choices. That's the way the
world has
worked in the past when IBM was king people did the same thing, and
that's
the way it will always work.
You can stand up an be counted as an open minded person, or you can
use
NT
and stand up to be counted with the closed minded people who only use
Microsoft solutions. It's your choice.
Ted
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Leigh
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Shire.Net LLC
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:31 PM
To: Born, Clinton
Cc: FreeBSD Questions
Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Born, Clinton wrote:
Really? I wouldn't want such a myopic view when choosing to
allocate our
shareholders dollars. Best tool for the job. Period!
That is not as easy as you make it out to be. WHat one might in the
short term see as the best tool may not be such in 2 years when
support is dropped and you are in a forced obsolescence and have to
replace it with something else... So making value judgments like
tools that are known to be well supported on FReeBSD for example is
part of determining the best tool for the job
Chad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amitabh
Kant
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:28 AM
To: Nikolas Britton
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
And this is what I always do. As a person responsible for
recommending/approving/buying harware related stuff for few
different
companies, I make it a point that I *prefer* only those brands that
have support for FreeBSD. For me, this is more so in case of RAID
cards.
On 7/27/06, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Except most of the people using FreeBSD in a professional setting
are
pretty high up on the IT/IS/MIS food chain. If a product doesn't
work
on my platform of choice then there's no way in hell I'll approve
it's
uses on other platforms, FreeBSD is my litmus test. If a vendor
doesn't support FreeBSD they can still pass my test by providing
open
documentation.
I see the whole issue this way: companies are free to choose whether
to support FreeBSD or not, and I am free to choose/recommend their
product in my installations. It's only when we start to speak with
our
money bags, that it will make commercial sense to them to support
*BSD.
Amitabh
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