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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damian Wiest
> Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2006 3:33 AM
> To: Anton Shterenlikht
> Cc: George Allan; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: pdf editor
> 
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 02:14:03PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> > > Maybe it's time to reconsider the nature of that itch?  PDF was 
> > > never meant to be edited (except peripherally), and most 
> definitely 
> > > not in the sense that you're thinking.  Consider it a 
> FINAL "print" 
> > > format, like an image that's long since left the 
> photographer, his 
> > > studio and his camera and now exists only as a JPG on a 
> hard drive.
> > >  
> > 
> > Agreed. But what if I'm writing a paper for a scientific journal in 
> > latex on my freebsd and my coauthors just can't be persuaded to use 
> > anything that's not already exist on their windows PCs? I find the 
> > results of latex2html or latex2rtf of poor quality (even 
> for editing 
> > purposes), i.e. lots of errors, problems with references, 
> etc. Maybe I 
> > need to learn how to use these tools better.
> > 
> > Lately I was sending them pdfs and got in reply some pdfs that can 
> > only be viewed properly with the latest acrobat, and their comments 
> > are only visible on the screen anyway and cannot at all be printed.
> > 
> > So what do I do? More broadly, what is the solution for cross- 
> > platform (*nix - windows - vms) editing of a complex document, with 
> > lots of maths, line plots and raster images?
> > 
> > anton
> 
> Agree on a document format?
> 
> -Damian

Use the minimalist elements of latex as a 'document markup', 
and write in wordpad on the windows box as that seems to understand
newlines,
explain to them the concept of 'getting the content right first' _and
then_ 
doing the fussy layout. And put all the images, and plots into jpegs 
'for discussion' during the writing process, with appropriate document
markers.

Just gotta come up with a way to do the maths in a common format (again
teach
'em latex, by showing them the difference if the finished product a few
times
for some complex equation/theorem/lemma etc)

lotsa luck!

BTW I have had these 'discussion' before and another argument is disk
space
I had a writer generate over 15Gb of documents in all the initial. 
'required to be held' intermediate formats and finals forms. 
along with the humungous hi res screen grabs.... 

My versions fitted on a DVD. A Makefile, the latex source, and realistic
jpegs.
 
cheers
mjt
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