On 6/17/2011 2:48 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
>>> Sigh.  If you'd ever actually filed a copyright registration or
>>> transfer form, you would discover that one needs to get them notarized.
>>> (Documenting that a certain document was available and signed at a
>>> specific date is what a notary public is for.)
>>>
>>> There is no case law in the US to support this "poor man's copyright."
>>>
>>>  http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.html#what
>>
>> That page does not say anything about case law.  It refers to copyright
>> law, which is law on the books -- not case law.
> 
> Yes, I know the difference.  You're welcome to cite a court case in the US 
> where a judge decided that this "poor man's copyright" constituted valid 
> evidence of copyright ownership.
> 
>> The "poor man's copyright" approach is, I believe, less certain and
>> effective than registration, but if there is a dispute over proper claim
>> of copyright, anything you can do to add evidenciary support for your
>> claim will help.
> 
> Many people seem to believe their opinions matter more than facts which 
> contradict such beliefs.  Snopes is knocking, and they'd like this 
> misinformation retracted:
> 
>   http://www.snopes.com/legal/postmark.asp
> 
>> In my previous explanation, of course, I neglected to mention that the
>> way to ensure some kind of strength of evidence is to use metered mail,
>> specifically so that nobody will be able to (as) convincingly claim you
>> just mailed yourself an empty envelope and stuffed it later.
> 
> Is there some part of "you're repeating an urban legend which has been 
> discredited" which you find hard to understand?
> 
> [ ... ]
>>> Let me repeat: unless you are a lawyer, you are not qualified to
>>> provide legal advice.
>>
>> Let me be clear:
>>
>> I didn't give legal advice.  I didn't say "You should do this."  I said,
>> in effect, "This is what I have observed."  In fact, nothing I said is
>> any more advisory than what you said.
>>
>> For someone intent on giving the impression of precision, your precision 
>> sucks.
> 
> 
> Are you willing to acknowledge that your claims about "poor man's copyright" 
> in the US are invalid?  If you can't be honest enough to do so, frankly, your 
> opinions about my precision-- or anything else-- aren't a matter of concern.
> 
> Regards,

I think the problem with you two is that it's really hard to get a real
Lawyer to respond to any of this considering how hard it is to type on a
keyboard with your hands in someone Else's pockets.

-gore

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