On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 06:34:36PM -0700, Robin Schoonover wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:23:34 -0800, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >     Trying to install a GUI MUA has me wedged ... and lost!!
> > 
> >     I've been trying to get the mozilla mail/news suite to 
> >     work for a long time--well, on and off!  I finally
> >     installed cucipop on NS1.THOUGHT.ORG and tried to start it.
> > 
> >     [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/etc/rc.d#        /usr/local/libexec/cucipop -Y
> >     cucipop: Can't bind socket 110
> >
> 
> Something is probably already listening on port 110.  Check sockstat -l (if
> it's FreeBSD, or check to see if something in inetd is grabbing it...).
> 

        Yep, altho I'm not sure why or how:

   
   root     inetd    24764    7 tcp4   *:110                 *:*
    
        I commented out pop3 and reinitialized; then the socket was 
        113.   --This is a bit over my head; 113 is given to auth.
        Why is it grabbing the POP socket?

> > 
> >     NS1 had a valid IP address; my two other systems are internal,
> >     private, invisible from the outside.  At any rate, after some
> >     pondering I altered the 'news and mail' configuration.  Voila;
> >     mail *is* sent out (in HTML).  But not received... (???)
> >     /var/mail/kline is my spool; mozilla can't see this for some
> >     reason.  
> > 
> 
> mozilla doesn't know about these sort of mailboxes.  It only knows about
> imap and pop3.
> 

        Thanks for the insight.  Well, room for improvement... .

> >
> >     evolution refuses to build because some of the GNOME libs
> >     won't upgrade.  (Of my 400 ports, just 11 seem broken.)
> >     Can anybody recommend a GUI mail program that doesn't have
> >     so many dependencies?
> > 
> 
> portupgrade might help your GNOME libs upgrade.  Anyhow, I use
> sylpheed-claws (basically the more cutting edge version of sylpheed).


        I used portupgrade for all but 11 of my out-of-date ports.
        It's great.  Unfortunately, it can't fix broken code and I'm
        happy with ctwm ;-)


> 
> >     1.) Do I really need pop3? 
> 
> If you want to use mozilla.
> 
> >     2.) How do I get the mozilla mail to recognize the mail in my spool
> >     dir?
> 
> You probably don't.
> 
> >     3.) What is a decent MUA?
> 
> that's debatable.  I consider what I use to be decent :P 
> 

        I'll give sylpheed a look.  I really prefer discreet tools
        than bundled/bloat.   Use mutt 99% of the time.  So when I
        find a decent GUI client, I'm gonna rebuild mozilla sans'
        the mailer.

        thanks el-mucho!

        gary


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   Gary Kline     [EMAIL PROTECTED]   www.thought.org     Public service Unix

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