On 03/03/2012 10:18 AM, H wrote:
Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 03/02/2012 07:42 PM, H wrote:
Doug Barton wrote:
... and here is the crux of the problem. The vast majority of our
developers don't use FreeBSD as their regular workstation. So it has
increasingly become an OS where changes are being lobbed over the wall
by developers who don't run systems that those changes affect. That's
no way to run a railroad. Doug
wow

since it is not April 1st it must be revelation's day ...:)

is this then the bottomline ?

if [ $using_ports=YES ]; get_screwed($big_time); fi


Hey people

There are still a lot of us which might not be smart enough or lack
the resources to help you debug issues but we still use and depend on
FreeBSD, and we test, and hopefully give you some debugging hints

I have some production servers running on STABLE  and even some on
CURRENT to stress our developers, but most run RELEASE and use
freebsd-update

Keep up the good work, it makes me a more confident sysadmin
Ports is the best thing happening to me after going through al the apt
and other stuff
you talk like the wind blows my friend ...

remembering  your own most recent words in another occasion  what
certainly do not match your last sentence ...

The last sentences:

In short: FreeBSD makes you think about what you are doing beforehand
which makes a great way to upgrade/ update application, database e.g.
on servers whithout running into service downtime. Other OS's don't or
do it less. I like that a lot, it saves a lot of incoming phone calls.

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-January/237779.html



/ On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Bas Smeelen<b.smeelen at 
ose.nl<http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>>  wrote:
/>/
/>/>  On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:52:07 -0500
/>/>  David Jackson<djackson452 at 
gmail.com<http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>>  wrote:
/>/>
/>/>  >  I have tried endlessly to no avail to upgrade binary the packages
/>/>  >  on Freebsd to the latest version. I have tried:
/>/>  >
/...
/>  >
/>/>  >  All fail miserably and totally and have left the system in an
/>/>  >  unuseable state.
/>/>
/....
/
/>/
/>/ I wish to use binary packages and I specifically do not want to
/>/ compile anything, it tends to take far too long to compile programs
/>/ and would rather install some packages and have it all work right
/>/ away. Binary packages are a big time saver and are more efficient. It
/>/ should be easy for FreeBSD to make it easy to install the most recent
/>/ versions of all binary packages, its beyond belief they cannot pull
/>/ off such a simple ans straight forward, and basic part of any OS.  /








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