On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 09:48:57PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> jonathan michaels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 03:45:41PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> > > Maybe it would reduce confusion somewhat if people would
> > > just stop saying ``4.1-stable'' etc. Those simply do not
> > > exist.
> > >
> > > I would also vote for ``uname -r'' saying ``4-STABLE'' and
> > > appending the date (similar to the snapshot naming), like
> > > ``4-STABLE-20010509''. This is much more useful than
> > > ``4.3-STABLE'', IMO.
> >
> > actually, given teh granularity of teh cvs system it might be
> > worthwhile to add hh:mm ..
>
> That would be rather difficult.
>
> As far as I know, there is no automatic mechanism to store
> the current date and time somewhere upon a cvs checkout or
> update.
i wasn't sure, i am sort of fiddling with setting up some sort of
source code management system (html, freebsd system sources, tcp/ip
network maintenance et al) and i'm starting to get a handle on how
cvs/rcs/perforce sort of work.
> Anyway, just the day should be sufficient in most cases.
> Think of someone posting a well-known problem to -questions
> or -stable, and giving his uname output which says, for
> example, ``4-STABLE-20010509''. Now we can tell him to
> upgrade because it was fixed on 2001-05-20 or whatever.
yup, this is what i thought would be the best and given that i couldn't
see how to get the granularity required to extract teh exactly required
version and given that clocks are out and given that .. a whole lot of
other things i endup with (as you rightly pointed out) settling on the
date of the day of teh er, um whatever that part of teh 4-stable
contium would be called.
> If he just said ``4.3-STABLE'', it wouldn't help much.
yes, this has always been my problem since i started with freebsd back
at 2.0.5-release, i could never reconcile who cvs and its mechanisms
for getting and making on call 'images' so to speak of either a file, a
subsystem or even teh whole of freebsd at a given point in time
(usually a given day, being identified by its date).
> Storing the date (without time of day) in that string would
> require some cron script somewhere (probably on the master
> CVS server) that updates the newvers.sh file daily. This
> might sound like a gross hack, but so far I haven't seen a
> better idea.
"gross hack", not advocating, most people have enough on thier plates
already, i can see that getting what one needs from cvs for say
releng_4 for say march 23rd 2001 ... then we all can call it freebsd
4-stable-23042001. instead of freebsd 4.?-stable as of sometime early
this year and teh other time frame hack normally used.
> > on second thoughts your sugestion is teh
> > sanest i've seen and personally wonder why it wasn't done like this
> > fron teh begining.
>
> Probably because of the gross hack that I described above.
> :-)
maybe for teh hours:minutes part but for teh stable-23042001 that (from
what i've managed to gather so far, ok) should be ok. just a bit of a
discription reorganising because it is muchly what we are using right
now, ummm i think.
> But maybe someone else has a better idea how to achieve
> that.
given the tools we use, i think this sounds like teh most likely cource
of action to take (from my perspective) but, ok, your probably right.
with regards and thanks
jonathan
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