On 01/25/2013 14:59, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:31:39PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
On Jan 25, 2013, at 4:31 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 08:41:11AM +0000, David Chisnall wrote:
Hi All,
In 10.0, the plan is not to ship any GPL'd code, so I'd like to start
disconnecting things from the default build, starting with gcc. I've been
running a gcc-free system for a while, and I think all of the ports that don't
build with clang are now explicitly depending on gcc. Does anyone have strong
opinions on when would be a good time for head on x86 and x86-64 to default to
not building gcc?
To clarify: there is no plans to not ship any GPLed code for 10.x.
Instead, there are still plans to ship working 10.x.
Please do not consider the personal opinion as the statement of the project
policy.
The goal is to try not to ship GPL'd code in 10. The goal is not to ship 10
without GPL'd code if that results in a broken system. The goal also as
articulated at different forum, was for Tier 1 systems. Tier 2 and 3 systems
may use GPL code as a fallback if the non-gpl'd code doesn't work on those
platforms.
That is to say, it is a goal, not an absolute requirement.
All you said is reasonable and quite coincides with what I thought.
Unfortunately, it has very tangential relations to what is proposed to
do and to the political agenda declared in the message started the thread.
I don't care much about gcc in current. It doesn't seem like the right time
to kill it but it is a dead end and we should be using the pre pkg'ed
version
instead (I know, easier said than done, but the Debian guys did it).
Either way, there is no hurry but it is a desirable goal.
I am really tired of the constant struggle against the consumation of
the FreeBSD as the test-bed for the pre-alpha quality software. E.g.,
are we fine with broken C++ runtime in 9 ?
The libstdc++ issue is really REALLY worrying.
I would prefer if the hack to attempt using libstdc++ as a filter
library were reverted altogether in 9.x.
I had a lots of stress with that issue as some people pointed at
my libstdc++ updates as possible root cause. I felt some natural
relief when the real cause was found but I certainly wonder why
the change was made in 9.x though since it's clear that codebase
will not be migrated to libc++.
Pedro.
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