On 01/04/2014 10:13 AM, Michael T. Pope wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 22:34:48 +0000
> "Lone_Wolf" <lone_wol...@users.sf.net> wrote:
>> Scouts in Col1 do get a LOS of 3 with DeSoto.
> Good.  FreeCol is in compliance.  One other point though, does the
> LOS increase for naval units?
DeSoto has no effect on ship LOS in Col1 v3

>> I can also verify that always positive runmour effect happens.
>> Without DeSoto an unskilled scout in Col1 often finds nothing or just 
>> vanishes.
>> With DeSoto they never vanish, and only rarely find nothing.
>> Seasoned scouts have never vanished before DeSoto, but find nothing often 
>> enough to avoid doing any rumours before getting DeSoto.
>>
>> After DeSoto seasoned scouts seem to have a better chance of getting results 
>> above 'trinkets' then unskilled scouts. I can't give numbers though.
> This is implemented.  A while back a brave volunteer did get us
> some actual numbers for the LCR result probabilities, so what we have is
> not too bad and I do not recommend spending any time there.  However see
> below...
>   
>> I do have the feeling that freecol native chiefs give more gold to scouts 
>> then col1 chiefs.
> This is controlled by the "gifts" element within the indian-nation-type in
> the specification.  Do you have suggestions for changes?
Compare the values given by the cibola cities, general treasures found 
by scouts and treasure from conquering native settlements.
It would feel logical to me if amounts were like this (big to small) :
Cibola treasure
scout treasure
conquer native settlements treasure
chief gifts
scout trinkets

As things are now in freecol, starting in the south on america_large 
gives a big advantage because of the many aztec and inca cities there.
On very Hard i often got 1500+ from them, especially the rain forest 
region tends to have lots of aztec cities.
The large amount of cities at very hard level actually makes the game 
easier instead of harder, mainly due to chief gifts..
>> also besides cities of gold, col1 scouts found burial grounds with treasures 
>> more often then freecol scouts.
> Do scouts with deSoto see burial grounds with treasure?  This would be
> both good and bad, and I suspect it is currently not possible in FreeCol as
> deSoto is knocking out the burial ground result.  If so, this would
> be an error and would also possibly account for your impression.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike Pope
Based on my recollections burial ground treasure occur both before and 
after DeSoto.
before the soto : find burial ground > warning popup > get treasure > 
nearest native settlements gets mad (very often)
after DeSoto : find burial ground > get treasure

LW


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